[Footnote 99: The disciple Jan Yu.] He is no disciple of mine, said the Master. My little children, ye may beat your drums and make war on him. 17. Ch'ai[100] is simple, Shen[101] is dull, Shih[102] is smooth, Yu[103] is coarse. 18. The Master said, Hui[104] is almost faultless, and he is often empty. Tz'u[105] will not bow to the Bidding, and he heaps up riches; but his views are often sound. 19. Tzu-chang asked, What is the way of a good man? The Master said, He does not tread the beaten track; and yet he does not enter the inner rooms. 20. The Master said, Commend a man for plain speaking: he may prove a gentleman, or else but seeming honest. 21. Tzu-lu said, Shall I do all I am taught? The Master said, Whilst thy father and elder brothers live, how canst thou do all thou art taught? Jan Yu asked, Shall I do all I am taught? The Master said, Do all thou art taught. Kung-hsi Hua said, Yu[106] asked, Shall I do all I am taught? and ye said, Sir, Whilst thy father and elder brothers live. Ch'iu[107] asked, Shall I do all I am taught? and ye said, Sir, Do all thou art taught. I am in doubt, and dare to ask you, Sir. [Footnote 100: The disciple Kao Ch'ai] [Footnote 101: The disciple Tseng-tzu.] [Footnote 102: The disciple Tzu-chang.] [Footnote 103: The disciple Tzu-lu.] [Footnote 104: The disciple Yen Yuean.] [Footnote 105: The disciple Tzu-kung.] [Footnote 106: Tzu-lu.] [Footnote 107: Jan Yu.] The Master said, Ch'iu is bashful, so I egged him on; Yu is twice a man, so I held him back. 22. When the Master was in fear in K'uang, Yen Yuean fell behind. The Master said, I held thee for dead. He answered, Whilst my Master lives how should I dare to die? 23. Chi Tzu-jan[108] asked whether Chung Yu[2] or Jan Ch'iu[3] could be called a great minister. The Master said, I thought ye would ask me a riddle, Sir, and ye ask about Yu[109] and Ch'iu.[110] He that holds to the Way in serving his lord and leaves when he cannot do so, we call a great minister. Now Yu and Ch'iu I should call tools. Who are just followers then? Nor would they follow, said the Master, if told to kill their lord or father. 24. Tzu-lu made Tzu-kao governor of Pi. The Master said, Thou art undoing a man's son. Tzu-lu said, What with the people and the spirits of earth and corn, must a man read books to become learned? The Master said, This is why I hate a glib tongue. 25. The Master said to Tzu-lu, Tseng Hsi,[111] Jan Yu and Kung-hsi Hua as they sat beside him, I may be a day older than you, but forget that. Ye are wont to say, I am unknown. Well, if ye were known, what would ye do? [Footnote 108: The younger brother of Chi Huan, the head of the Chi clan.] [Footnote 109: Tzu-lu. He and Jan Yu had taken office under the Chi.] [Footnote 110: Jan Yu.] [Footnote 111: A disciple: the father of Tseng-tzu.]