But, sir, there was a part of the speech of the right honorable gentlemen which he introduced with an apology, and which I think it right hriefly to follow. He referred to the communication between Lord Carnarvon and the member for Cork, and I cannot question for a moment the denials he has made. But what were those denials? I attended as well as I could to his statement, and his denials were three. In the first place, he denied that any engagement or agreement had been made. Sir, I am not aware of its having been asserted. He denied, secondly, that it ever had been stated to be the intention of a Conservative Government to grant a measure of Home Rule. I am not aware, sir, that that has ever been stated. Thirdly, he denied on the part of Lord Carnarvon, and I accept the denial with all my heart, that Lord Carnarvon had ever used any words inconsistent with the maintenance of the Union. (_Ministerial cheers._) But these three denials leave entirely untouched the material parts of the case. What are these material parts? If the right honorable gentleman wishes to dispose of them, I can only say that they are not disposed of by what he has said to-night, and he must set about with a new set of statements and denials in order to get rid of them. (_Opposition cheers._) It was stated by the honorable member for the city of Cork, that he found himself in substantial--I might say, in entire agreement with Lord Carnarvon on the question of Home Rule. That has not been denied. (_Home Rule cheers._) It has been stated that Lord Carnarvon spoke for himself, and that I do not question, in so far as a Lord Lieutenant can speak for himself. (_Opposition cheers._) The right honorable gentleman, the Chief Secretary, did not deny in the speech he has just made, and certainly there was space in that speech for such denial, that Lord Carnarvon and the honorable member for Cork were in substantial agreement on the policy of Home Rule. MR. BALFOUR. I may say that, from the abstract I read, Lord Carnarvon clearly, in my idea, did not express his opinion about the Home Rule policy. MR. GLADSTONE. The honorable member for Cork declared that he had an interview with Lord Carnarvon, and that he found himself in agreement with Lord Carnarvon on the subject. The right honorable gentleman has not denied that. (_Home Rule cheers._) MR. BALFOUR. I interpreted Lord Carnarvon's statement as distinctly denying that. MR. GLADSTONE. I ask for the words of Lord Carnarvon's statement which contains that denial. (_Cheers._) MR. BALFOUR. I will obtain them as quickly as I can, but it would take me out of the House to do so now. (_An honorable member: "Send for them."_)