Rosenthal, when examined on this point before the Grand Jury, refused to testify on the ground that conversation between attorney and client was privileged. Adler got into trouble with the Grand Jury over his testimony on this point. Both Rosenthal and Adler, however, testified at Schmitz's trial. [124] N. M. Adler, proprietor of the Bay State Restaurant, testified at the Schmitz trial as to Loupy's negotiations. Loupy called upon him twice. "The first time he came," Adler testified, "he told me that things were very serious, and we would have to put up some money and hire Mr. Ruef; that he was the only man that could help us. I told him that I could not understand the proposition; that I had run my business for twenty years, and didn't think that they could do me any harm. At that time Ruef was making his headquarters at the Pup restaurant. I could see that from my place across the street. He went there regularly." Then Adler testified to the meeting before the Police Commissioners at which his attorney, Rosenthal, had not been permitted to speak, and continued: "Afterwards, Loupy came to me again, and told me that Tortoni had closed up, and that we should put up the money or we would be all closed. This was after we had been to the meeting of the Police Commissioners." [125] The testimony brought out at the graft trials showed that Ruef received $8500 from the French restaurants, $5000 the first year from the five in the combine; $3000 the second, and $500 additional from Camille Mailhebeau. Ruef stated to Heney later and so testified at the Schmitz trial, that half of the $8000 received from the combine he turned over to Schmitz. [126] The five restaurant keepers were asked at the Schmitz trial whether they had employed Ruef because he was a lawyer or because of his recognized power as political boss. They testified as follows: A. B. Blanco of the "New Poodle Dog"--"Well, being a political boss we thought he had influence enough to get our licenses." N. M. Adler, of the "Bay State"--"Well, the way I took it, Mr. Ruef is a boss. He had an influence over the commission. He was the only man who could help us." On cross-examination: "I understood that if I did not employ Ruef I would not get my license. I understood that Mr. Ruef was the only man who could get my license."