the end, because the end _as end_ doth not go before, but followeth the thing produced, and therefore doth not concur to its production: if they say it doth so far concur, as it is desired of the agent or efficient cause, it should not so have an immediate influence upon the effect, but should onely first move the efficient. Lastly, saith he, it doth not enter the conservation of a thing, because a thing is often conserved, when it is frustrate of its due end, as when it's converted to a new use and end. Divers other Arguments he hath to prove there is no such cause as the final cause. _Nat. Carpenter Philosoph. liber Decad. 3. Exercitat. 5_. But for all this, the Author and he differ not in substance: for 'tis not the Author's intention to assert that the end is in nature præexistent to the effect, but only that whatsoever God has made, he hath made to some end or other; which he doth to oppose the Sectators of _Epicurus_, who maintain the contrary, as is to be seen by this of _Lucretius_ which follows. _Illud in his rebus vitium vehementer et istum, Effugere errorem vitareque premeditabor Lumina ne facias oculorum clara creata Prospicere ut possimus; et, ut proferre viai Proceros passus, ideo fastigia posse Surarum ac feminum pedibus fundata plicari: Brachia tum porro validis ex apta lacertis Esse, manusq; datas utraq; ex parte ministras, Vt facere ad vitam possimus, quæ foret usus: Cætera de genere hoc, inter quæcunq; precantur Omnia perversa præpostera sunt ratione: Nil ideo quoniam natum'st in corpore, ut uti Possemus; sed quod natum'st, id procreat usum, Nec fuit ante videre oculorum lumina nata, Nec dictis orare prius, quam lingua creata'st, Sed potius longe linguæ præcessit origo Sermonem; multoq: creatæ sunt prius aures Quam sonus est auditus, et omnia deniq; membra Ante fuere, ut opinor, eorum quam foret usus: Haud igitur potuere utendi crescere causa._ Lucret. lib. 4. [822-841.] _Sect. 15. Pag. 24._ _There are no Grotesques in nature_, etc.] So _Monsr. Montaign_, _Il n'ya rien d'inutil en nature, non pas l'inutilité mesmes, Rien ne s'est ingeré en cet Univers qui n'y tienne place opportun._ Ess. l. 3. c. 1. _Who admires not_ Regio-montanus _his Fly beyond his Eagle?_] Of these _Du Bartas_.