Trial of Pedro de Zulueta, jun., on a Charge of Slave Trading, under 5 Geo. IV, cap. 113, on Friday the 27th, Saturday the 28th, and Monday the 30th of October, 1843, at the Central Criminal Court, Old Bailey, London: A Full Report from the Short-hand Notes of W. B. Gurney, Esq.Zulueta, Pedro de
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Trial of Pedro de Zulueta, jun., on a Charge of Slave Trading, under 5 Geo. IV, cap. 113, on Friday the 27th, Saturday the 28th, and Monday the 30th of October, 1843, at the Central Criminal Court, Old Bailey, London: A Full Report from the Short-hand Notes of W. B. Gurney, Esq.
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5323. Mr. _W. Patten_.] Is it your opinion that the law can be altered
upon this subject for the better?--I think not; any alteration would, I
think, be for the worse. In the next paragraph Dr. Madden states, that
he considers it would be desirable that the men-of-war vessels on the
coast should only be employed two years. I do not think that any naval
officer would agree with him in that respect; it is not till they have
been two years on the coast that they become acquainted with the arts of
the slave dealers, and thoroughly efficient in the suppression of the
slave trade.
5324. In short, it requires considerable experience to ascertain the
best means of capturing the slavers?--Certainly; but on all questions
relating to service on the coast I would recommend that a naval officer
should be examined.
5325. _Chairman._] Dr. Madden suggests, “that instead of head-money, or
the bounty of 5_l._ paid for the capture of each slave, the pay of men
and officers should be doubled, and the promotion of the former advanced
in proportion to the time of service required for it on any other
station in a double ratio.” Are you of opinion that any inconvenience
arises from the present system of head-money?--I do not think any
inconvenience has been found to arise; it was supposed at one time, and
stated rather positively in the House of Lords, that such an effect had
been produced, but a refutation of the statement was given the same
year, for instead of full vessels being taken, there was not one out of
20 that was taken with slaves on board.
5326. You think that the remuneration to the officers is put upon the
best and fairest footing now?--I would not say that, because I think the
officers are not remunerated sufficiently for empty vessels at present;
the sum received for the capture of an empty vessel is so very small,
and the sum received for the capture of a full vessel so much larger,
that there is no comparison whatever between the two cases; and there is
more good done by the capture of an empty vessel, and the service is
just as arduous.
5327. Have you ever thought of any other system that could be
adopted?--I have suggested an alteration of the bounties on this scale.
It appeared that about three times as many vessels were captured under
the equipment treaties, as were formerly taken, when only vessels full
of slaves were allowed to be captured; and I thought that the
remuneration for an empty vessel should be so calculated, that it should
amount to about one-third of what the officer would receive if he took a
full vessel with the average number of slaves on board. There would be
no difficulty in making the calculation, and it would be only fair to
the officers to give them that advantage.
5328. No such alteration has been made?--No.
5329. Mr. _W. Patten_.] You would not diminish the head-money to
officers when they captured a vessel full of slaves?--No; it has been
diminished very greatly the last 12 years, from 10_l._ to 5_l._ a head.
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