Trial of Pedro de Zulueta, jun., on a Charge of Slave Trading, under 5 Geo. IV, cap. 113, on Friday the 27th, Saturday the 28th, and Monday the 30th of October, 1843, at the Central Criminal Court, Old Bailey, London: A Full Report from the Short-hand Notes of W. B. Gurney, Esq.Zulueta, Pedro de
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Trial of Pedro de Zulueta, jun., on a Charge of Slave Trading, under 5 Geo. IV, cap. 113, on Friday the 27th, Saturday the 28th, and Monday the 30th of October, 1843, at the Central Criminal Court, Old Bailey, London: A Full Report from the Short-hand Notes of W. B. Gurney, Esq.
Zulueta, Pedro de
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5268. Are you not aware of any British agents of the slave traders; are
you aware of the existence of agents of the Sherboro’ and of Gallinas
residing in Freetown?--Yes, of persons purchasing vessels on account of
slave traders, and I have no doubt purchasing goods also.
5269. What is the interest in the transaction which such persons
have?--A commission, I presume.
5270. Mr. _Forster_.] In your former evidence, you have mentioned a
merchant, of the name of Kidd, as acting as agent for the purchase of
prize vessels on behalf of the slave traders at the Gallinas; in your
opinion, was Mr. Kidd singular in that respect?--I do not recollect any
other person employed in that way during my time.
5271. Is it within your knowledge that merchants, who were members of
the Council of Government at Sierra Leone, have been engaged in similar
transactions?--Never, to my knowledge; but I would also mention, as Mr.
Kidd’s name has been spoken of, that, since the last meeting of the
Committee, I have met with his name accidentally, in connexion with
another transaction of the same kind, in the printed Parliamentary
Papers, and therefore I may refer to it. It is the case of a vessel sold
to a slave trader, a vessel called the Ligeira, which was captured a
second time, and brought into Sierra Leone a very short time after she
left the port; it appeared that in the meantime Mr. Kidd had carried her
from the colony and sold her to a slave trader, and she was captured
almost immediately afterwards. The case is reported at page 101 of Class
(A.) of the Slave Trade Papers, for 1839-40.
5272. _Chairman._] Would it not be desirable, if possible, that all the
vessels taken in the slave trade should be broken up?--Certainly, it
would be the best thing that could possibly be done; and in those cases
where it appeared to the court, during the latter part of the time that
I administered the mixed courts there, that a vessel could have been
condemned either as a Portuguese or a Spaniard, in all these cases we
condemned her as a Spaniard, in order that she might be cut up after her
condemnation; for the slave traders were seriously injured by being
deprived of the means of getting off the coast and getting slaves again.
5273. Mr. _W. Patten._] In the case of the breaking up of a vessel, do
the captors get any prize money?--Yes, they get a bounty on the tonnage
of that vessel; she is measured by the surveyors before being broken up,
in order to ascertain her tonnage by the new mode of measurement, and
upon that measurement the captors are paid the bounty in England.
5274. It is immaterial to the captors whether the vessel is broken up
or sold again, so far as their private interests are concerned?--Except
that the vessel sells whole for much more than she does when she is
broken up for fire-wood.
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