Trial of Pedro de Zulueta, jun., on a Charge of Slave Trading, under 5 Geo. IV, cap. 113, on Friday the 27th, Saturday the 28th, and Monday the 30th of October, 1843, at the Central Criminal Court, Old Bailey, London: A Full Report from the Short-hand Notes of W. B. Gurney, Esq.Zulueta, Pedro de
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Trial of Pedro de Zulueta, jun., on a Charge of Slave Trading, under 5 Geo. IV, cap. 113, on Friday the 27th, Saturday the 28th, and Monday the 30th of October, 1843, at the Central Criminal Court, Old Bailey, London: A Full Report from the Short-hand Notes of W. B. Gurney, Esq.
Zulueta, Pedro de
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5275. Is the vessel valued only as fire-wood when broken up?--They get
only a moiety of the proceeds of the broken parts, in the other case
they get a moiety of a vessel fit for sea, with all the rigging perfect.
5276. You do not coincide with Dr. Madden, who recommends that a vessel
when captured should be put into the possession of the capturing officer
to be disposed of?--It would be quite impossible; the foreigners would
very justly complain of us if we left the vessel in charge of the
officer when once brought before the court. It appears by a paper, which
I have seen this morning only, that already they complain of irons and
other things, to condemn the vessel, being put on board after the
arrival of the vessel at Sierra Leone. Now, if during the time the
vessel was passing through the court, and during the time when the
marshal now has charge of her, in order to prevent any thing of that
kind happening, you left the vessel to the officer, who is interested in
putting three or four shackles on board, which is quite sufficient to
condemn the vessel, I think they would have just cause to complain.
5277. What Dr. Madden recommends is, that when the vessel has been
condemned it should be put at the disposal of the commanding officer on
the post, for the exclusive use of the service of the navy?--A small
number of the vessels condemned might perhaps be beneficially made use
of, and the new Act authorises the purchase of vessels when the
commanding officer may think it right to purchase them; but having had
that option, he of course only purchased such vessels as were required;
we had 60 odd vessels in 1839 before the court; what would the navy have
done with all those vessels?
5278. Mr. _Forster_.] Had many of those vessels cargoes on board?--Yes.
5279. _Chairman._] Should you think it would be advisable to sell the
vessels under bond that they should not be employed in the slave trade
for a certain period?--The law is now almost as stringent as any bond
could be.
5280. In what way?--Dr. Madden seems to suppose that vessels may be
fitted out in Sierra Leone, and may lie in British waters equipped for
the slave trade; but any one at Sierra Leone would have told him that no
vessel could possibly lie there equipped for the slave trade; the
authorities are so particular, that even in many cases vessels were
seized and brought before the court if they were supposed to have a few
gallons too much water in them. There is an exceeding jealousy on the
subject, as indeed appears by some of the papers which have been
presented.
5281. Mr. _Forster_.] Before what court is a vessel, taken in British
waters, equipped for the slave trade, brought; the Court of Admiralty or
the Court of Mixed Commission?--If she is prosecuted under the Act of
Parliament, she is prosecuted of course in the Vice-Admiralty Court.
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