_Q._ Where were those irons put on. Was it on board the Savannah, or after you were put on board the Perry? _A._ When we got on board the Perry. _Q._ How soon after you went on board the Perry were those irons put on? _A._ As soon as our baggage was searched. We were put in the between-decks on board the Perry and irons put on us immediately after we were searched. _Q._ Were you in irons when you were transferred from the Perry to the Minnesota? _A._ No, sir. _Q._ When were the irons taken off? _A._ On board the Perry, when we were going into the boat to go on board the Minnesota. _Q._ When you were on board the Minnesota were your irons put on again? _A._ They were, at night. _Q._ Was that the practice--taking them off in the day, and putting them on at night? _A._ Yes; we were not ironed at all on that day on board the Minnesota. _Q._ When you arrived in Hampton Roads,--you have described the place where the Minnesota lay, about half a mile from the Rip Raps? _A._ Yes. (A chart was here handed to witness, and he marked on it the position of the Minnesota off Fortress Monroe.) _Q._ As I understand it, you have marked the position of the anchorage of the Minnesota a little further up into the land than on a direct line between the Rip Raps and Fortress Monroe? _A._ Yes, sir. _Q._ You were then taken on board the Harriet Lane, from the Minnesota? _A._ Yes. _Q._ Where did the Harriet Lane lie when you were taken on board of her? _A._ She was further up into the Roads, about half a mile from the Minnesota, westward. (Witness marked the position of the Harriet Lane on the chart.) _Q._ You are familiar with these Roads? _A._ Yes, sir; for years. _Q._ You know the town of Hampton? _A._ Yes. _Q._ And the college there? _A._ Yes. _Q._ How, with reference to the college at Hampton, did the Harriet Lane lie? _A._ The college at Hampton appeared N.N.W., and at a distance of a mile and a quarter, or a mile and a half. _Q._ How were you taken from the Minnesota on board the Harriet Lane? _A._ The ship's crew took us in a boat. _Q._ In one trip, or more trips? _A._ We all went in one of the ship's boats. _Q._ On what day was that? _A._ I do not bear in mind exactly. _Q._ Was the Harriet Lane ready to sail when you were taken on board of her? _A._ Yes; she sailed in a few hours afterwards. _Q._ She had already had steam up? _A._ Yes; they were waiting for the commander, who was on shore. _Q._ How long were you lying on board the Minnesota after your arrival there? _A._ I think we were transferred from the Minnesota on Saturday, the 20th of June. _Q._ How long had you been lying on board the Minnesota, in Hampton Roads? _A._ Two or three days; I do not recollect exactly. _Q._ You have been a seafaring man a good many years? _A._ I have been about 34 years at it. _Q._ In the capacity of master and mate? _A._ Yes, sir. _Q._ As pilot, also? _A._ I have run pilot on all the coasts of America.