The name of the men, one is Allan Grant, and the other is Tommy Thompson. And I was not introduced. Mr. RANKIN. Had you ever seen them before? Mrs. OSWALD. No, I had never seen them before. As I say, they could have been the men driving the car. But I want you to understand at the time I didn't notice that, because I was holding my new grandbaby, and comforting my daughter-in-law, and talking to Mrs. Paine in the back seat of the car. So Mrs. Paine sat on the floor. And she said to the photographer--he had a camera in front of him--"Now, I hope you have good color film, because I want good pictures." Mr. RANKIN. What time of the day was this? Mrs. OSWALD. This was approximately 6:30. We had just arrived in Mrs. Paine's home--I would say 6 and 7 o'clock, approximately, between that time. We are home 5 minutes when they knocked on the door. Mrs. Paine immediately says, "Gentlemen, I hope you have colored film so we will have some good pictures." I didn't know who they were. But then I knew they were newsmen, because of her statement and the camera. So Tommy Thompson started to interview Mrs. Paine. He said, "Mrs. Paine, tell me, are Marina and Lee separated, since Lee lives in Dallas?" She said, "No, they are a happy family. Lee lives in Dallas because of necessity. He works in Dallas, and this is Irving, and he has no transportation, and he comes every weekend to see his family." "Well," he said, "What type family man is he?" She said, "A normal family man. He plays with his children. Last night he fed June. He watches television and just normal things." She went on. So he said, "Mrs. Paine, can you tell me how Lee got, the money to"--I am sorry--"can you tell me how Lee was able to return back to the United States financially?" She said, "Oh, yes, he saved the money to come back to the United States." Now, while this little episode went on, I was fuming, gentlemen, because I didn't want this type of publicity. I thought it was uncalled for, immediately after the assassination, and the consequent arrest of my son. But I was in Mrs. Paine's home. Now I had an opportunity to be gracious. I spoke up and I said--I am ahead of myself. She answered that he saved the money. I spoke up and I said, "Now, Mrs. Paine, I am sorry. I am in your home. And I appreciate the fact that I am a guest in your home. But I will not have you making statements that are incorrect. Because I happen to know you have made an incorrect statement. To begin with, I do not approve of this publicity. And if we are going to have the life story with Life magazine"--by that time I knew what it was--"I would like to get paid. Here is my daughter-in-law with two small children, and I, myself, am penniless, and if we are going to give this information, I believe we should get paid for it." Mr. RANKIN. Did you think Mrs. Paine was trying to get paid for it?