Mrs. OSWALD. You see, this is why I was not surprised that he didn't come--that he came, rather, he had not come on Friday and Saturday, and on Sunday I called him over the telephone and this is when he had a quarrel over the fictitious name. By the way, he didn't come because I told him not to come. He had wanted to come, he had telephoned. Mr. RANKIN. What did you tell him about not coming? Mrs. OSWALD. That he shouldn't come every week, that perhaps it is not convenient for Ruth that the whole family be there, live there. Mr. RANKIN. Did he say anything about that? Mrs. OSWALD. He said, "As you wish. If you don't want me to come, I won't." Mr. RANKIN. Were you quite angry with him about the use of the fictitious name? Mrs. OSWALD. Yes. And when he called me over the phone a second time I hung up and would not talk to him. Mr. RANKIN. Did you tell him why you were so angry? Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, of course. Mr. RANKIN. What did you say? Mrs. OSWALD. I said, "After all, when will all your foolishness come to an end? All of these comedies. First one thing then another. And now this fictitious name." I didn't understand why. After all, it was nothing terrible if people were to find out that he had been in Russia. Mr. RANKIN. What did he say when you said that? Mrs. OSWALD. That I didn't understand anything. Mr. RANKIN. Do you remember an incident when he said you were a Czechoslovakian rather than a Russian? Mrs. OSWALD. Yes. We lived on Elsbeth Street, and he had told the landlady that I was from Czechoslovakia. But I didn't know about it, and when the landlady asked me, I told her I was from Russia. I told Lee about it that evening, and he scolded me for having said that. Mr. RANKIN. What did you say to him then? Mrs. OSWALD. That the landlady was very nice and she was very good to me and she was even pleased with the fact that I was from Russia. Mr. RANKIN. Did you object to your husband saying that you were from some country other than Russia? Mrs. OSWALD. Of course. Mr. RANKIN. What did you say to him about that? Mrs. OSWALD. I am not ashamed of the fact that I am from Russia. I can even be proud of the fact that I am Russian. And there is no need for me to hide it. Every person should be proud of his nationality and not be afraid or ashamed of it. Mr. RANKIN. What did he say in response to that? Mrs. OSWALD. Nothing. Mr. RANKIN. When he gave the fictitious name, did he use the name Hidell? Mrs. OSWALD. Where? Mr. RANKIN. When you called him that time. Mrs. OSWALD. Where? Mr. RANKIN. On the weekend, when you called him, you said there was a fictitious name given. Mrs. OSWALD. I don't know what name he had given. He said that he was under a fictitious name, but he didn't tell me which. Mr. RANKIN. Have you ever heard that he used the fictitious name Hidell? Mrs. OSWALD. Yes. Mr. RANKIN. When did you first learn that he used such a name? Mrs. OSWALD. In New Orleans. Mr. RANKIN. How did you learn that?