Mr. SPECTER. So that you observed it on the first occasion when you saw the car in the White House garage on or about November 27; is that correct? Mr. KELLERMAN. That is correct, sir. Mr. SPECTER. The indentation could conceivably have been present before the shooting? Mr. KELLERMAN. It could have; yes. Mr. SPECTER. But you didn't observe it before the shooting? Mr. KELLERMAN. I did not. Mr. SPECTER. And did you not observe it in Dallas after the shooting? Mr. KELLERMAN. That is right; I did not. Mr. SPECTER. Did you have any occasion to examine closely the windshield area after the assassination in Dallas? Mr. KELLERMAN. No, sir. Mr. SPECTER. Did you have any occasion to examine closely the windshield at any time after the assassination until you saw the car in the garage on or about November 27? Mr. KELLERMAN. No, sir; I have not. Mr. SPECTER. Would you describe for the record where that indentation occurs or is placed? Mr. KELLERMAN. This indentation is placed on the metal-bar framework which is across the top of the windshield. The indentation is directly to the right of the mirror holder. Mr. SPECTER. Is that on the inside or the outside of the car? Mr. KELLERMAN. This is on the inside of the car. Representative FORD. What prompted you to make that investigation on or about November 27? Mr. KELLERMAN. First, Mr. Congressman, I wanted to look this car over for--let me go back a little bit. When this car was checked over that night for its return to Washington, I was informed the following day of the pieces of these missiles that were found in the front seat, and I believe aside from the skull, that was in the rear seat, I couldn't conceive even from elevation how this shot hit President Kennedy like it did. I wanted to view this vehicle, whether this was a slant blow off the car, whether it hit the car first and then hit him, or what other marks are on this vehicle, and that is what prompted me to go around and check it over myself. Representative FORD. Had anybody told you of this indentation prior to your own personal investigation? Mr. KELLERMAN. Not of the windshield; no, sir. Representative FORD. You were the first one to find this indentation? Mr. KELLERMAN. I believe I am the first one who noticed this thing up on the bar. Representative FORD. That is what I meant. Mr. KELLERMAN. Yes, sir. Representative FORD. You are the first one to notice this particular indentation? Mr. KELLERMAN. Yes; I believe I am, sir. Representative FORD. All right. Mr. SPECTER. Did you have occasion to examine the windshield or the framework closely before the assassination, either in Dallas or in Washington? Mr. KELLERMAN. No; I honestly didn't. Mr. SPECTER. Mr. Chairman, I move for the admission to evidence of Exhibit No. 349. Representative FORD. It will be so admitted. (The document referred to, heretofore marked Commission Exhibit No. 349 for identification, was received in evidence.)