Mr. SPECTER. Have you now told us everything you know, either from conversations or reports, about the wounds of Governor Connally? Mr. KELLERMAN. That is right; yes, sir. Mr. SPECTER. All right. Were you able to observe at the time of the shooting and immediately thereafter, as Governor Connally went into the hospital, any of his specific wounds? Mr. KELLERMAN. Only of the--I am presuming now of the hand because, when he was lying, he had it across his stomach here, and it was rather bloody. Mr. SPECTER. And was it the hand that was bloody, the stomach, or both? Mr. KELLERMAN. I would say so right now; yes. Mr. SPECTER. Which? Mr. KELLERMAN. The hand. Mr. SPECTER. Was the stomach bloody at all? Mr. KELLERMAN. Not that I remember. Mr. SPECTER. Do you have anything to add, Mr. Kellerman, on the total number of wounds in relationship to your view that there were more than three shots? Mr. KELLERMAN. Well, let's consider the vehicle. Mr. SPECTER. Fine. What about the vehicle would you consider relevant in this regard? Mr. KELLERMAN. The windshield itself, which I observed a day or two after the funeral here, had been hit by a piece of this missile or missiles, whatever it is, shell. Mr. SPECTER. While you are referring to the windshield, permit me to hand you a photograph marked Commission Exhibit 349 and ask if you can tell us what that photograph depicts? Mr. KELLERMAN. This photograph is the windshield of the Presidential special automobile that we used in Dallas on November 22. And it depicts a hit by some instrument on the metal railing that covers the windshield. Mr. SPECTER. In what position is the hit on that metal railing? Mr. KELLERMAN. Directly to the right of the mirror. Mr. SPECTER. Is that on the top of the windshield? Mr. KELLERMAN. That is on the top of the windshield. I am sorry; this is not the windshield itself; this is the top of the vehicle. This is the framework. Mr. SPECTER. Would you draw a red arrow with the pen that you have to the mark which you have just described? (Mr. Kellerman marked the photograph.) Mr. SPECTER. Now, when did you first observe that indentation? Mr. KELLERMAN. This was observed a day or two after the funeral, which funeral was the 25th of November; this would be upward of the 27th. Mr. SPECTER. Where was the automobile at the time you observed that indentation? Mr. KELLERMAN. At the White House garage, sir. Mr. SPECTER. Was the windshield in the automobile at that time? Mr. KELLERMAN. Yes, sir; it was in the automobile. Mr. SPECTER. Did you observe or notice that indentation in the windshield when you were in Dallas after the shooting occurred? Mr. KELLERMAN. No, sir. Mr. SPECTER. Did you observe or notice that indentation before the shooting occurred? Mr. KELLERMAN. No, sir. Mr. SPECTER. Are you able to state positively whether or not that indentation was present before the shooting? Mr. KELLERMAN. No, sir.