Mr. MARTIN. It may have been, yes. Representative FORD. I believe that was the letter that Mr. Redlich indicated he would get a copy from the Dallas Chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union. Mr. MARTIN. Her answer is what he wanted to get. Mr. REDLICH. I think Congressman Ford is right. We might be able to get both a copy of the letter and their answer. Mr. DULLES. Their statement in this letter is the English of the Russian translation which they sent to her. I think it would be adequate, wouldn't it? Mr. REDLICH. Yes. Mr. DULLES. It seems to me it would be adequate for our purposes. Mr. REDLICH. We will contact the Dallas Division on that. Representative FORD. Marina testified here, and she has said elsewhere, that based on the facts as she now knows them, she believes that Lee was guilty of the assassination of President Kennedy. Mr. MARTIN. Yes. Representative FORD. Was that her attitude when you first met her? Mr. MARTIN. Well, when I first met her, we didn't converse very well at all. There was lack of communication because of the language barrier, and I didn't discuss it with her probably until the latter part of December, although she was speaking fairly good English by the 15th of December. Representative FORD. When you first discussed it with her, what was her attitude? Mr. MARTIN. Well, she said she thought he was crazy. Representative FORD. But did she indicate when you first discussed the question of guilt or not being guilty, what was her attitude? Mr. MARTIN. She thought he was guilty. Representative FORD. The first time you discussed the matter? Mr. MARTIN. Yes. Representative FORD. Did she indicate why? Mr. MARTIN. No. I asked her why, and she said it was just a feeling. Representative FORD. At that point had she---- Mr. MARTIN. A woman's feeling. Representative FORD. At that point had she been given or shown the evidence that had been accumulated by various agencies of the Federal Government? Mr. MARTIN. I don't know. I assume she had through the FBI. The FBI were showing her pictures and numerous things. I was not in on any of the questioning at all. Mr. DULLES. Had she read the papers or had them read to her as far as you know at that period? Mr. MARTIN. Some of them, yes. Mr. DULLES. Newspapers, I mean. Mr. MARTIN. Yes. Representative FORD. From that first conversation you had with her about this matter, the guilt of Lee Harvey Oswald, she has never changed her mind? Mr. MARTIN. No, and I have never heard her say anything other than he was guilty. Representative FORD. Did you ever discuss with Marina the conversation she had with Lee Harvey Oswald at the Dallas police station the day he was apprehended or the day following. Or at any time prior to his death? Mr. MARTIN. The only time she said anything about it was that he told her not to worry and to make sure and get the--get June a pair of shoes. Representative FORD. She told you that is what he said to her?