Mr. FRAZIER. I first saw him he was--we have a table not as large as this, but just about half as large as this, and we have just like you walk up to it where I am sitting over here and we have four or five boxes there and we have different names on it, you know, for different publishing companies, and he was there getting some orders, and I say, as well as I remember, I said, the foreman there was getting him out some real easy orders. Some of the orders we have are real easy to fill, easier than the others, you don't have to know so much about the textbooks to be able to fill them and he was getting some of them easy ones out to start on, when we have a great number of them, you see, the little pamphlet type books and all we do is count them out and read the invoice number. Mr. BALL. What was the name of the foreman showing him? Mr. FRAZIER. You mean the foreman, that was Mr. Shelly. Mr. BALL. S-h-e-d? Mr. FRAZIER. S-h-e-l-l-y. Mr. BALL. Shelly. What floor was this on? Mr. FRAZIER. It was on the first floor there. Mr. BALL. Did Shelly introduce you to him or did you go up and shake hands with him? Mr. FRAZIER. No, sir; he didn't. I remember, I knew, you know that he was going to be coming to work so naturally I hadn't been there very long, you know, living in Dallas and so I wanted to make friends with everybody I could, because you know yourself friendship is something you can't buy with money and you always need friends, so I went up and introduced himself to myself, and he told me his name was Lee and I said "We are glad to have you." We got talking back and forth and he come to find out I knew his wife was staying down there at the time with this other woman and so I thought he would go out there and I said, "Are you going to be going home this afternoon?" And he told me then, he told me that he didn't have a car, you know, and so I told him, I said, "Well, I live out there in Irving,"--I found out he lived out there and so I said, "Any time you want to go just let me know." So I thought he would go home every day like most men do but he told me no, that he wouldn't go home every day and then he asked me could he ride home say like Friday afternoon on weekends and come back on Monday morning and I told him that would be just fine with me. I told him if he wanted a ride any other time just let me know before I go off and leave him because when it comes to quitting time some of these guys, you know, some of them mess around the bathroom and some of them quit early and some of them like that and some leave at different times than others. But I said from talking to him then, I say, he just wanted to ride home on weekends with me and I said that was fine. Mr. BALL. Did he say at that time he was living in Dallas, he had a room in Dallas? Mr. FRAZIER. Yes, sir; he did. He had an apartment. Mr. BALL. Did he say where? Mr. FRAZIER. No, sir; he didn't. He just said he had an apartment over in Dallas.