Mr. FRAZIER. You know right here, you say like the car, you notice that little house right there, I assume you have checked off. You know like I was telling you now. I usually park over in this corner. But at the time I parked right there. But anyway, there is a little cyclone fence and this was the series of railroad tracks, I was talking to you about. Mr. BALL. That is right. Mr. FRAZIER. I usually come down here. Mr. BALL. Munger Street? Mr. FRAZIER. That is right, and usually cross along the railroad tracks and come up here. Mr. BALL. Houston Street? Mr. FRAZIER. Houston runs into it, now they are doing some work across the tracks and you can't go any further than the tracks, right along here this line, cyclone, but that type of fence and I usually walk right up, you know. Mr. BALL. To the buildings? Mr. FRAZIER. Right. Mr. BALL. And enter the rear of the building? Mr. FRAZIER. Yes, sir. Now, we call it a loading zone out there, dock area. Mr. BALL. Fine. Did anyone else ride with you in the morning, usually did anyone else ride with you in the morning from home to work? Mr. FRAZIER. No, sir; they didn't. Mr. BALL. Did anybody ride with you from work to home? Mr. FRAZIER. No, sir; they didn't. Mr. BALL. When did you first hear of Lee Harvey Oswald, first hear the name? Mr. FRAZIER. I first heard, I never really did know his name, we just called him Lee around there. But the first time I ever saw him was the first day he come to work. Mr. BALL. Had you heard he was coming to work before he came to work? Mr. FRAZIER. I will say, you know, talking back and forth with the bossman all the time and from being around and getting along real fine and so he told me, I assume the day after he hired him that he was going to have him come in on Monday and he asked me had I ever seen him and I told him then no; I had never seen him. (At this point, Representative Ford entered the hearing room.) Mr. BALL. Had your sister told you that this fellow Lee was coming to work? Mr. FRAZIER. Yes; she did. She said one afternoon when I went home she told me she found out from one of the neighbors there he came over for that interview with Mr. Truly and Mr. Truly had hired him. Mr. BALL. You heard that from your sister? Mr. FRAZIER. Yes. Mr. BALL. Before you saw him? Mr. FRAZIER. Right, before I saw him. Mr. BALL. When you first saw him was it a Monday morning? Mr. FRAZIER. Yes; it was. Mr. BALL. Do you have any idea of the date itself, do you have any memory of the date when you first saw him? Mr. FRAZIER. No, sir; I don't. Mr. BALL. Was it sometime around the middle of October, do you think, would that be close to it? Mr. FRAZIER. It could have been because it was sometime in October because I remember I went to work there on the 13th and I had been working there, 4 or 5 weeks and then he come there. Mr. BALL. Where was he when you first saw him?