Mr. SPECTER. All right. Then precisely what was your next movement after completing the delivery of that message to Lawson? Mr. KELLERMAN. When I completed the delivery of those instructions to Lawson, I just hung up the receiver and looked back. Mr. SPECTER. To your right this time--to your left; pardon me. Mr. KELLERMAN. To my left; that is right. This is when I first viewed Mr. Hill, who was on the back of the---- Mr. SPECTER. Precisely where was he in that instant? Mr. KELLERMAN. Lying right across the trunk of the car with Mrs. Kennedy on the left rear. Mr. Hill's head was right up in back of her. Mr. SPECTER. When you describe the left rear you mean as the car was facing? Mr. KELLERMAN. As the car is traveling, sir; yes, sir. He was lying across the trunk of this car, feet on this side. Mr. SPECTER. Was he flat across the trunk of the car? Mr. KELLERMAN. Flat; that is right. Mr. SPECTER. What was the position of Mrs. Kennedy's body at that time? Mr. KELLERMAN. She was sitting up in the corner of this back seat, like this. Mr. SPECTER. So that she was on the buttocks area of her body at that time? Mr. KELLERMAN. Yes, sir. Mr. SPECTER. And what movement, if any, did you observe Mrs. Kennedy make at that time? Mr. KELLERMAN. I never did see Mrs. Kennedy leave that back seat, sir. Mr. SPECTER. When you say the back seat, are you referring---- Mr. KELLERMAN. The seat she was sitting on. Mr. SPECTER. Are you referring to the seat itself of the automobile? Mr. KELLERMAN. Right. Mr. SPECTER. Where did you look next; what did you observe following that? Mr. KELLERMAN. Then I observed how the President was lying, which was--he was--flat in the seat in this direction. Mr. SPECTER. On his left-hand side? Mr. KELLERMAN. Yes, sir. Governor Connally was lying straight on his back with Mrs. Connally over him about halfway. Mr. SPECTER. Did Governor Connally say anything up to this point? Mr. KELLERMAN. No. Mr. SPECTER. Did Mrs. Connally say anything up to that point? Mr. KELLERMAN. No. Mr. SPECTER. When was it that Mrs. Kennedy made the statement which you have described, "My God, what are they doing?" Mr. KELLERMAN. This occurred after the flurry of shots. Mr. SPECTER. At that time you looked back and saw Special Agent Hill across the trunk of the car, had your automobile accelerated by that time? Mr. KELLERMAN. Tremendously so; yes. Mr. SPECTER. Now, to the best of your ability to recollect, exactly when did your automobile first accelerate? Mr. KELLERMAN. Our car accelerated immediately on the time--at the time--this flurry of shots came into it. Mr. SPECTER. Would you say the acceleration---- Mr. KELLERMAN. Between the second and third shot. Senator COOPER. Might I ask a question there? Mr. SPECTER. Yes.