Warren Commission (03 of 26): Hearings Vol. III (of 15)United States. Warren Commission
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Warren Commission (03 of 26): Hearings Vol. III (of 15)
United States. Warren Commission
Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963 -- Assassination; Oswald, Lee Harvey
Mr. McCLOY. Did they indicate--were they still there when you got back?
Mrs. PAINE. No; they were not. Remember the door was locked.
Mr. McCLOY. Yes; the door was locked, that is what I gather. Do you
know what they took on this occasion, or did they tell you what they
were coming for?
Mrs. PAINE. No; I do not. Before I left they were leafing through books
to see if anything fell out but that is all I saw.
Mr. McCLOY. All right.
Mrs. PAINE. In this interim then, I suppose I talked to some more news
people but I want to get to the next important point which was that Lee
called again.
Mr. JENNER. A third time?
Mrs. PAINE. I really call the first two one, but it was twice dialed.
Mr. JENNER. Fix the time, please.
Mrs. PAINE. It was around 9:30 in the evening.
Mr. JENNER. Who was home? Was your husband there on that occasion?
Mrs. PAINE. I don't recall.
Mr. JENNER. Was anyone else other than your children and yourself in
your home at the time of the receipt of the call in the evening?
Mrs. PAINE. It could only have been Michael. I would remember someone
else.
Mr. JENNER. But you have no definite recollection that even he was
present?
Mrs. PAINE. No.
Mr. JENNER. All right. The phone rang, you answered it.
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Did you recognize the voice?
Mrs. PAINE. I recognized the voice.
Mr. JENNER. Whose was it?
Mrs. PAINE. It was Lee Oswald's.
Mr. JENNER. What did he say and what did you say?
Mrs. PAINE. He said, "Marina, please," in Russian.
Mr. JENNER. Please, Mrs. Paine, did he speak to you in English in the
conversations in the afternoon or in Russian?
Mrs. PAINE. He spoke in English the entire conversation.
Mr. JENNER. The two in the afternoon?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Now, however, he resorted to Russian, did he?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes. He planned to speak to Marina.
Mr. JENNER. I beg your pardon?
Mrs. PAINE. He planned to speak to Marina, and this opening phrase was
one he normally used calling as he had many previous times to speak to
her.
Mr. JENNER. He was under the assumption, you gathered, that Marina was
in your home?
Mrs. PAINE. He certainly was.
Mr. JENNER. All right.
Mrs. PAINE. And I would be fairly certain that I answered him in
English. I said she was not there, that I had a notion about where she
might be, but I wasn't at all certain. That I would try to find out. He
said, he wanted me to--he said he thought she should be at my house. He
felt irritated at not having been able to reach her. And he wanted me
to----
Mr. JENNER. Did he sound irritated?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes; he sounded just a slight edge to his voice. And he
wanted me to deliver a message to her that he thought she should be at
my house.
Mr. JENNER. And he so instructed you?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. That is what he said?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes. That was so far as I remember, the entire conversation.
Mr. JENNER. What response did you give to his direction?
Mrs. PAINE. I said I would try to reach her.
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