Mrs. PAINE. She said she was very tired and wanted to get to bed, as I recall, and thought it was certainly best to stay there that night. Mr. JENNER. Is that your best recollection? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. And I certainly agreed with her. Mr. JENNER. Did she say anything in response to your delivery of Lee Oswald's message about Marina staying with you, of the possibility of her staying with you, say, the next day? Mrs. PAINE. Nothing of that nature was said. I think I remember that we did discuss whether she had seen Lee during the day, and on that occasion it seems to me I learned that she had seen him around noon but I may be wrong about when I learned that. I knew she had seen him. Mr. JENNER. Either in that conversation or any other conversation with Marina that you may have had, was the subject of Lee Oswald's attitude or any comments he made mentioned? Mrs. PAINE. No. Mr. JENNER. Nobody reported to you anything about any conversation they might or did have with Lee Oswald either on the 22d or 23d or even on the 24th of November 1963? Mrs. PAINE. No. I am of the impression I again tried the home telephone of John Abt on Sunday morning, but I am not certain, and there was no answer. That I certainly remember. Mr. McCLOY. Did you ever reach Abt? Mrs. PAINE. No. Mr. JENNER. Did you ever attempt to report to Lee Oswald that you had been unable to reach Mr. Abt? Mrs. PAINE. Not unless such transpired in our 9:30 conversation Saturday evening, but I made no effort to call the police station itself. Mr. JENNER. Excuse me? Mrs. PAINE. I made no effort to call the police station. Mr. JENNER. Did you have at anytime any further conversations with Lee Oswald? Mrs. PAINE. No. Mr. JENNER. Other than what you have now related? Mrs. PAINE. That is right. Mr. McCLOY. Did you have any impression as to why he wanted Marina to come back with you? Was it in order to make her available for telephone calls from him or what? Mrs. PAINE. What is distinctly my impression is that he thought she should be available. That it was she wasn't where he could find her that irritated him rather than that he thought this was the best place for her. Representative FORD. Did you know of Mr. Abt or was this just---- Mrs. PAINE. I had never heard of Mr. Abt before. Representative FORD. Never heard of him? Mrs. PAINE. That is right. Senator COOPER. Did Marguerite Oswald explain any further, in the statement you said she made, about having too many obstacles or having obstacles or having troubles? Mrs. PAINE. Are you referring to the statement on Friday night when she was at my home? Senator COOPER. No. I think you said a few minutes ago when she went to the hotel you called her and told her what Lee Oswald had told you to tell Marina. Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Senator COOPER. I think you said she said something about----