Mrs. PAINE. All right. To be really the very beginning I will start and say I have been interested in other languages before being interested in Russian. I studied French in high school, German in college, and got a tutor to study Yiddish when I was working with a group that spoke that language. Mr. JENNER. That is the Golden Age group of the Young---- Mrs. PAINE. Men and Young Women---- Mr. JENNER. Hebrew Association in Philadelphia? Mrs. PAINE. That is correct. Mr. JENNER. At that time you were employed by? Mrs. PAINE. That organization. Mr. JENNER. By that organization. And were you doing work in connection with this plan of Antioch College? Mrs. PAINE. No; that was after I had completed my work at Antioch. Mr. JENNER. I see. Mrs. PAINE. Well, I do believe I did get some credit for that year at Antioch although I had completed my academic work, I was still getting some credit for my job credit, that is. Mr. JENNER. All right, proceed. Mrs. PAINE. And then I was working with a group of young Quakers, had been indeed for sometime. Mr. JENNER. Please fix a little more definite time, please? Mrs. PAINE. I began my interest in young Quakers in 1947. Mr. JENNER. In 1947? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. As quite a young girl? Mrs. PAINE. When my interest also began in the Quaker church. Mr. JENNER. You were then what, you were 19 years old? Mrs. PAINE. I was going on 15, as a matter of fact. Mr. JENNER. Going on 15? Mrs. PAINE. That is right. Mr. JENNER. You were going to high school? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Where were you living then? Mrs. PAINE. I was living in Columbus, Ohio. Mr. JENNER. And you became interested in the Quaker faith then or at least in the Quaker activity? Mrs. PAINE. Both. Mr. JENNER. And were you a member of the Friends Society, young people's society in Columbus at that time? Mrs. PAINE. I attended the meeting which is the Quaker church in Columbus. They didn't have enough young people to have a society in that particular meeting. But then in college I became active in the national young Friends group. Mr. JENNER. What is the official name of that? Mrs. PAINE. The name at that time was the Young Friends Committee of North America. It included Canada young Friends. And in this connection I was, I served, as Chairman or Conference Coordinator for a conference of young friends that was held in 1955. Mr. JENNER. Where? Mrs. PAINE. At Quaker Haven, Ind. Mr. JENNER. Did you attend that? Mrs. PAINE. I did. It was at this conference, toward the latter part, part of really arising out of a discussion of the need for communication and more of it between the United States and the Soviet Union by no means the bulk of the business of this conference, but a small committee of interested people, was working on this matter. Mr. JENNER. Are these interested young people? Mrs. PAINE. These are all young Friends. Mr. JENNER. And you were then of what age, 1955. 23? Senator COOPER. 9 years ago?