The purpose of today's hearing is to hear the testimony of Howard Leslie Brennan, Bonnie Ray Williams, James Jarman, Jr., Harold Norman, Roy S. Truly. These witnesses were all in the vicinity of the Texas School Book Depository Building at the time of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. They will be asked to provide the Commission with their knowledge of the facts concerning the assassination of President Kennedy. Would you please rise and be sworn? Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you give before this Commission will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Mr. BRENNAN. I do. The CHAIRMAN. You may be seated, Mr. Brennan. Mr. Belin will conduct the interrogation. Mr. BELIN. Mr. Brennan, will you state your name for the record, please? Mr. BRENNAN. Howard Leslie Brennan. Mr. BELIN. Where do you live? Mr. BRENNAN. 6814 Woodward, Dallas 27. Mr. BELIN. And how old a man are you? Mr. BRENNAN. 45. Mr. BELIN. Are you married? Mr. BRENNAN. Yes. Mr. BELIN. Family? Mr. BRENNAN. Two children. One grandson. Mr. BELIN. What is your occupation, Mr. Brennan? Mr. BRENNAN. Steamfitter. Mr. BELIN. And for whom are you employed, or by whom are you employed? Mr. BRENNAN. Wallace and Beard. Mr. BELIN. Is that a construction company? Mr. BRENNAN. Yes. Mr. BELIN. And let me ask you this: How long have you been a steamfitter? Mr. BRENNAN. Since 1943, I believe. Mr. BELIN. Do you work for one employer, or do you go from job to job? Mr. BRENNAN. I go from job to job. Mr. BELIN. Is that at your direction or at the direction of any union? Mr. BRENNAN. Local 100 in Dallas. Mr. BELIN. Mr. Brennan, where were you on the early part of the afternoon of November 22, 1963, say around noon or so? Mr. BRENNAN. I left a position behind the Book Store, which is a leased part of Katy Yards, which we have fabrication for pipe for the Republic Bank Building. At 12 o'clock I went to the cafeteria on the corner of Main and Record. I believe that is it. Mr. BELIN. That would be at Main and Record Streets in Dallas? Mr. BRENNAN. Yes. Mr. BELIN. And did you have your lunch there? Mr. BRENNAN. Yes. Mr. BELIN. And then after lunch, where did you go? Mr. BRENNAN. I finished lunch and I glanced at a clock--I don't know exactly where the clock is located--and noticed it was 12:18. So I thought I still had a few minutes, that I might see the parade and the President. I walked to the corner of Houston and Elm. Mr. BELIN. What route did you take to get to Houston and Elm? Mr. BRENNAN. I went west on Main. Mr. BELIN. You went west on Main from Record Street to---- Mr. BRENNAN. Houston. Mr. BELIN. Houston Mr. BRENNAN. And on the east side of Houston, I walked to Elm. Mr. BELIN. All right. Mr. BRENNAN. Crossed the street to the southwest corner of Houston and Elm. Mr. BELIN. Do you have any estimate about how long it took you to get there?