Mr. BALL. You do remember, though, that you ate your lunch and drank your pop, your Doctor Pepper, before you came down? Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Were you there any length of time before the Presidential parade came by? Mr. WILLIAMS. Well, sir, on the fifth floor? Mr. BALL. On the fifth floor, yes, with your two friends, Norman and Jarman. Mr. WILLIAMS. I was there a while before it came around. Mr. BALL. You were at what window? Mr. WILLIAMS. Well, I believe we was on the east side of the window, and I think Hank was--I think he was directly under the sixth floor window where Oswald was supposed to have shot the President from. And I think I was a window over. And I think James Jarman was two or three windows over. Mr. BALL. I will show you a picture here, which is 482. Do you see yourself in that picture? Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir; I am right here. Mr. BALL. All right. Draw a dark line down there towards you and put an arrow on the end. I will mark that W; the arrow W on 482 points to you, Bonnie Ray Williams. Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Is that about the way you were sitting in the window? Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. And you were watching the parade? Mr. WILLIAMS. I don't remember whether I was watching the parade here or not. But I was in the window, that window. Mr. BALL. Do you recognize the man in the window to the right of us as we look at the picture? Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir; that is Harold Norman. Mr. BALL. Now, here is another photograph which is 480, giving more of the front of the building. Can you tell us in what window your friend Jarman was sitting, or watching? Mr. WILLIAMS. I believe this is James Jarman right here. Mr. BALL. All right. Draw a line down to that on 480. Draw an arrow to the window. Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. We will mark that W on 480. Now, were you boys sitting down or standing up? Mr. WILLIAMS. Are you referring to the picture? Mr. BALL. No, I am talking about your memory now as to what you were doing at the time you were watching for the Presidential parade. Mr. WILLIAMS. At the time we were watching for the President's parade, I believe I was in a squat position. But I don't remember whether I was on my knees or just squatting on the balls of my feet. Mr. BALL. When the parade went by, how were you--squatting? Mr. WILLIAMS. As the parade went by, I was in a squat position. Mr. BALL. Last Friday you went up to the sixth floor, or the fifth floor with us, and a photographer, and you three men got into position, did you not? Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. To have your pictures taken. Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes; we did. Mr. BALL. I can only ask you about your position. First of all, we will mark this as 485. (The photograph was marked Commission Exhibit No. 485 for identification.) Mr. BALL. I will mark this photograph as 486. (The photograph was marked Exhibit No. 486 for identification.)