Mr. NORMAN. The Foxboro Co. Mr. BALL. What kind of business is that? Mr. NORMAN. Engineer instrumentation. Mr. BALL. What kind of work do you do? Mr. NORMAN. Porter. Mr. BALL. When did you leave the Texas School Book Depository for this new job? Mr. NORMAN. I left during the Christmas holidays and the New Year's leave after we got off for New Year's. Mr. BALL. In November 1963, this is this last fall, what kind of work were you doing at the Texas School Book Depository? Mr. NORMAN. I was employed as an order filler. Mr. BALL. Is that the same kind of a job that Lee Oswald had? Mr. NORMAN. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Did you know him? Mr. NORMAN. No; just as an employee, that is all. Mr. BALL. You didn't know him before he came to work there? Mr. NORMAN. No, sir. Mr. BALL. Did you get acquainted with him after he was there? Mr. NORMAN. No. Just knew his name. I mean, you know, he wouldn't talk to anybody so I didn't---- Mr. BALL. He didn't talk to anybody? Mr. NORMAN. No. Mr. BALL. Did you ever engage him in conversation at the time he was there? Mr. NORMAN. No, sir. I just, you know, speak to him, that is all. I wouldn't engage in conversation. Mr. BALL. Are you the boys that use clipboards? Mr. NORMAN. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. The order fillers? Mr. NORMAN. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Somebody gives you orders by way of papers? Mr. NORMAN. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. What do you do after you get an order on a paper? Mr. NORMAN. We had a different publisher in the building, and each individual, he had a publisher that he would take, maybe I would take to a publisher and the other orders would and we would fill orders and bring them down to the first floor for them to be checked and shipped out. Mr. BALL. You have to go up and get the books out of cartons, do you? Mr. NORMAN. Yes. If we didn't have enough down in the bins down on the first floor we would have to go upstairs, to complete the orders. Mr. BALL. Do you fill some of your orders from the first floor? Mr. NORMAN. Yes. Mr. BALL. How many floors did you go to that morning yourself, November 22? Can you remember that? Mr. NORMAN. I believe I went as far as the fifth floor that morning. Mr. BALL. That is as far---- Mr. NORMAN. Yes. Mr. BALL. Did you ever go to the sixth floor that day, that morning? Mr. NORMAN. I can't--yes, I went up that morning during the time I think they were laying the floor up there when I went up there. Mr. BALL. Did you help them? Mr. NORMAN. No; I was just up there shooting the breeze. Mr. BALL. Now what about Lee Oswald. Do you know what publisher he filled orders for? Mr. NORMAN. I knew Scott-Foresman. Mr. BALL. Scott-Foresman. Mr. NORMAN. Yes. Mr. BALL. That was the publisher assigned to him? Mr. NORMAN. Yes. Well, I don't know if he was assigned to him but he filled, you know. Mr. BALL. He filled those orders? Mr. NORMAN. Yes. Mr. BALL. You say then he filled Scott-Foresman book orders? Mr. NORMAN. Yes.