Mr. JARMAN. I started in 1956. I worked from August up until November, and I was laid off until December the same year and I started back again and I worked up until 1958 I believe, 1958 or 1959, and I quit there and went to Parkland Hospital. From there I went back to the Depository. And I got laid off again and I went to Bakers Hotel, and I think it was in 1961 I went back to the Depository and I have been there ever since. Mr. BALL. What was your job at the Depository in November of 1963, last fall? Mr. JARMAN. Checker. Mr. BALL. What does a checker do? Mr. JARMAN. He checks various orders, books and things that go out to different schools. Mr. BALL. Do the order fillers bring the books down to where you have your---- Mr. JARMAN. Right. Mr. BALL. On a table. You have a table? Mr. JARMAN. I have a table with a scale and I weigh these books up and put the upholstery on them and put them on a little conveyor and the wrappers wrap them or pack them, whichever one it may be. Mr. BALL. Did you know Lee Oswald? Mr. JARMAN. Only as a coworker. Mr. BALL. Did you ever talk to him while he was working there? Mr. JARMAN. I have had him to correct orders at various times. That is about all. Mr. BALL. Did you ever talk to him about politics? Mr. JARMAN. No. Mr. BALL. Religion? Mr. JARMAN. No. Mr. BALL. Anything at all? Mr. JARMAN. Not until November the 22d. Mr. BALL. Not until that day? Mr. JARMAN. Not until that day. Mr. BALL. Did Oswald have any friends there? Mr. JARMAN. Well, not that I know of. Mr. BALL. Did he have any close friend that he would eat lunch with every day? Mr. JARMAN. No, sir; not that I know of. Mr. BALL. Did you notice whether Oswald brought his lunch most of the time or bought his lunch most of the time? Mr. JARMAN. Most of the time he brought his lunch. Mr. BALL. Most of the time he brought his lunch? Mr. JARMAN. Yes. Mr. BALL. Did you ever see him buy his lunch? Mr. JARMAN. Well, occasionally. I don't think so. Mr. BALL. I don't understand. Mr. JARMAN. I mean sometimes he would go out of the building. One time I know in particular that he went out, but he didn't buy any lunch. Mr. BALL. There is a catering service that comes by the building every morning at 10 o'clock, isn't there? Mr. JARMAN. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Did you ever see him buy his lunch from this catering service? Mr. JARMAN. I think once or twice he did. Mr. BALL. Did you ever see him when he was eating his lunch? Mr. JARMAN. Yes. Mr. BALL. Where? Mr. JARMAN. Sometimes in the, as we called it, domino room, and again over by the coffee table where they make coffee. Mr. BALL. Is that the first floor? Mr. JARMAN. That is the first floor. Mr. BALL. Now on November 22, what time did you get to work? Mr. JARMAN. About 5 minutes after 8. Mr. BALL. Was Oswald there when you got there? Mr. JARMAN. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Where did you see him the first time? Mr. JARMAN. Well, he was on the first floor filling orders.