Mr. BELIN. Congressman Ford---- Mr. McCLOY. Would you hold up your right hand. Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you give in this case will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Mr. JARMAN. I do. Mr. BALL. The statement has been read to you as to the purpose of your examination before the Commission? Mr. JARMAN. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Hasn't it, Mr. Jarman? Mr. JARMAN. Yes. Mr. BALL. State your name, please? Mr. JARMAN. James Jarman, Junior. Mr. BALL. What do they call you, Junior? Mr. JARMAN. Junior. Mr. BALL. Where do you live? Mr. JARMAN. 4930 Echo. Mr. BALL. Are you married? Mr. JARMAN. Yes. Mr. BALL. What is your age? Mr. JARMAN. 34. Mr. BALL. Where were you born? Mr. JARMAN. Dallas, Tex. Mr. BALL. Have you lived there all your life? Mr. JARMAN. Yes; I have. Mr. BALL. You still live there? Mr. JARMAN. Yes. Mr. BALL. And did you go to school in Dallas? Mr. JARMAN. Yes; I did. Mr. BALL. How far did you go through school? Mr. JARMAN. To the 10th grade and went to California in 1947 and stayed there for about a year. Mr. BALL. What did you do in California? Mr. JARMAN. I was living with my aunt at the time. Mr. BALL. Did you work? Mr. JARMAN. No; I was still in school. Mr. BALL. What school did you go to? Mr. JARMAN. Alameda High. Mr. BALL. Then where did you go after you came back, after you left California? Mr. JARMAN. I came back to Dallas. Mr. BALL. Did you go to school any more? Mr. JARMAN. No, I went into service. Mr. BALL. What year did you go in the service? Mr. JARMAN. 1948. Mr. BALL. How long were you in the service? Mr. JARMAN. I was in the service up until 1952. Mr. BALL. What service? Mr. JARMAN. U.S. Army. Mr. BALL. And did you enlist in 1948? Mr. JARMAN. Yes. Mr. BALL. Enlisted? Mr. JARMAN. Yes. Mr. BALL. Did 4 years in the Army? Mr. JARMAN. Yes; I did. Mr. BALL. Did you receive an honorable discharge from the Army? Mr. JARMAN. Yes. Mr. BALL. And then what did you do? Mr. JARMAN. I came out and stayed out for about until July of 1953. Mr. BALL. Then what? Mr. JARMAN. And reenlisted in the service again. Mr. BALL. How long did you stay in the Army this time? Mr. JARMAN. Until 1956. Mr. BALL. And were you discharged then? Mr. JARMAN. Yes, I was. Mr. BALL. Did you get an honorable discharge? Mr. JARMAN. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. And what did you do after that? Mr. JARMAN. Well, I started working at the Texas School Book Depository for about 2 months after. Mr. BALL. After you got out of the Army? Mr. JARMAN. Yes. Mr. BALL. You are still there; are you? Mr. JARMAN. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Was there any period of time since 1956 to 1964 that you didn't work there? Mr. JARMAN. Yes. Mr. BALL. How many times?