Mrs. PAINE. Yes. And I am pretty certain that it was the 7th I took him to the bus station. I recall it being already noon, and I thought he might well have started looking for a job earlier that day. Mr. JENNER. When next did you hear from Mr. Oswald? Mrs. PAINE. After the 7th. Probably on the 12th when he called again to ask if he could come out for the weekend. Mr. JENNER. The 12th is what day of the week? Mrs. PAINE. The 12th is a Saturday. Mr. JENNER. Do you recall that he did call? Mrs. PAINE. Pardon? Mr. JENNER. Did you recall that he did telephone and ask permission to come? Mrs. PAINE. Oh, indeed he did. Mr. JENNER. Did he always do that? Mrs. PAINE. He always did that with the exception of the 21st of November. Mr. JENNER. We will get to that in a very few moments. Mr. McCLOY. Before you get to that you said you went all the way into Dallas with this errand, that Marina was with you. Mrs. PAINE. That is my recollection. Mr. McCLOY. What did you do with the children? Mrs. PAINE. We always take them. Mr. McCLOY. Took them all, put them all in the station wagon? Mrs. PAINE. Yes; big station wagon. Mr. JENNER. By the way, I would like to go back a little. When you picked him up at the bus station on the afternoon of the 4th of October, what did he have---- Mrs. PAINE. On the afternoon of the 12th, around noon of the 12th. Mr. JENNER. Please, when he first returned to Irving after---- Mrs. PAINE. He hitchhiked out. Mr. JENNER. On the occasion that he told you he had been in Houston looking for a job? Mrs. PAINE. The 4th, he hitchhiked out. Mr. JENNER. Yes. It is that occasion that I have in mind. What did he have with him in the way of luggage? Mrs. PAINE. I don't recall certainly. It does seem to me that I remember he took the zipper bag on Monday, the following Monday, with him to town, along with some clothes over his arm, ironed shirts, things that are hung on hangers. Mr. JENNER. With respect to that trip---- Mrs. PAINE. You must remember I was shopping when he arrived on the afternoon of the 4th. Mr. JENNER. Yes. Mrs. PAINE. So I didn't see him when he arrived that moment. Mr. JENNER. But you do have a recollection of having seen the zipper bag on Monday? Mrs. PAINE. The 7th. Mr. JENNER. When you took him to the bus terminal for the purpose of his returning to downtown Dallas? Mrs. PAINE. To find a room and live there and have sufficient clothing there. That is my best recollection. Mr. JENNER. Is that the first time you had seen the zipper bag? Mrs. PAINE. No. Mr. JENNER. From the time you had left New Orleans on the 23d? Mrs. PAINE. So far as I recall. Mr. JENNER. Did you notice anything else in the way of pieces of luggage in your home after you came back from the shopping center that afternoon of October 4th that hadn't been there prior to his arrival? Mrs. PAINE. No.