Mrs. PAINE. Moved about, but not changed. Senator COOPER. Can you just describe the length? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Senator COOPER. The length of the rods, at the time you wrapped them. Mrs. PAINE. They would be 36 inches when pushed together. Senator COOPER. What? Mrs. PAINE. They would be about maybe 36 inches when pushed together. Senator COOPER. You remember wrapping them. Do you remember what the size, the length of the rods were at the time you wrapped them? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Senator COOPER. How long? Mrs. PAINE. Didn't I answer about 36 inches? Mr. JENNER. In other words, you pushed them together so that then, they were then their minimum length, unexpanded? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. They were not extended, and in that condition they were 36 inches long? Mrs. PAINE. Something like that. Mr. JENNER. Now, how many of them were there? Mrs. PAINE. Two. Mr. JENNER. These were lightweight metal? Mrs. PAINE. Very. Now, there was another item that was both heavier and longer. Mr. JENNER. In that same package? Mrs. PAINE. No; I don't think so. In another similar package wrapped up just to keep the dust off were two Venetian blinds. I guess they were not longer, more like 36 inches also, that had come from the two windows in my bedroom. I took them down to change, and put up pull blinds in their place. Mr. JENNER. And had you wrapped them? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. How many were there? Mrs. PAINE. Two. Mr. JENNER. And what was their length? Mrs. PAINE. I think around 36 inches. The width of these windows in the back bedroom. Mr. JENNER. Let us return to the curtain rods first. Do you still have those curtain rods? Mrs. PAINE. I believe so. Mr. JENNER. You believe so, or you know; which? Mrs. PAINE. I think Michael went to look after the assassination, whether these were still in the garage. Mr. JENNER. Did you have a conversation with Michael as to whether he did or didn't look? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Why was he looking to see if the curtain rod package was there? Mrs. PAINE. He was particularly interested in the wrapping, was the wrapping still there, the brown paper. Mr. JENNER. When did this take place? Mrs. PAINE. After the assassination, perhaps a week or so later, perhaps when one of the FBI people were out; I don't really recall. Mr. JENNER. And was the package with the curtain rods found on that occasion? Mrs. PAINE. It is my recollection it was. Mr. JENNER. What about the Venetian blind package? Mrs. PAINE. Still there, still wrapped. Mr. JENNER. You are fully conscious of the fact that that package is still there? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. And to the best of your knowledge, information, and belief the other package, likewise, is there? Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Senator COOPER. Let me ask a question there. After the assassination, at anytime did you go into the garage and look to see if both of these packages were there? Mrs. PAINE. A week and a half, or a week later.