Mr. McCLOY. We are talking about the, following up what Mr. Dulles said about the angle of declination, the wound that came through the President's collar, you said was consistent between the same bullet. I just wondered whether under all the circumstances that you know about the President's head wound on the top that would also be consistent with a wound in Governor Connally's body? Dr. SHAW. On the chest, yes; I am not so sure about the wrist. I can't quite place where his wrist was at the time his chest was struck. Mr. McCLOY. Now perhaps this is Dr. Gregory's testimony, that is the full description of the wrist wound, that would be his rather than your testimony? Dr. SHAW. I think he could throw just as much light on it as I could. And more in certain aspects. Mr. McCLOY. It did hit bone? Dr. SHAW. Obviously. Mr. McCLOY. And there must have been a considerable diminution in the velocity of the bullet after penetrating through the wrist? Dr. SHAW. Yes. Mr. DULLES. The wound inflicted on it, the chest wound on Governor Connally, if you move that an inch or two, 1 inch or the other, could that have been lethal, go through an area that could easily have been lethal? Dr. SHAW. Yes; of course, if it had been moved more medially it could have struck the heart and the great vessels. Mr. McCLOY. Let me ask you this, Doctor, in your experience with gunshot wounds, is it possible for a man to be hit sometime before he realizes it? Dr. SHAW. Yes. There can be a delay in the sensory reaction. Mr. McCLOY. Yes; so that a man can think as of a given instant he was not hit, and when actually he could have been hit. Dr. SHAW. There can be an extending sensation and then just a gradual building up of a feeling of severe injury. Mr. McCLOY. But there could be a delay in any appreciable reaction between the time of the impact of the bullet and the occurrence? Dr. SHAW. Yes; but in the case of a wound which strikes a bony substance such as a rib, usually the reaction is quite prompt. Mr. McCLOY. Yes. Dr. SHAW. Yes. Mr. McCLOY. Now, you have indicated, I think, that this bullet traveled along, hit and traveled along the path of the rib, is that right? Dr. SHAW. Yes. Mr. McCLOY. Is it possible that it could have not, the actual bullet could not have hit the rib at all but it might have been the expanding flesh that would cause the wound or the proper contusion, I guess you would call it on the rib itself? Dr. SHAW. I think we would have to postulate that the bullet hit the rib itself by the neat way in which it stripped the rib out without doing much damage to the muscles that lay on either side of it. Mr. McCLOY. Was--up until you gave him the anesthetic--the Governor was fully conscious, was he? Dr. SHAW. I would not say fully, but he was responsive. He would answer questions. Mr. McCLOY. I think that is all I have. The CHAIRMAN. I have no questions of the doctor.