Dr. SHAW. There is the wound of the drain that has been specifically described. It was not as large as the scar indicated because in cleaning up the ragged edges of the wound, some of the skin was excised in order to make a cleaner incision. This scar---- Mr. SPECTER. Will you describe the location, Doctor, of that wound on the Governor's back? Dr. SHAW. Yes. It is on the right shoulder, I will feel it, just lateral to the shoulder blade, the edge of which is about 2 centimeters from the wound, and just above and slightly medial to the crease formed by the axilla or the armpit, the arm against the chest wall. Mr. SPECTER. What other scars are shown there on the Governor's back? Dr. SHAW. The other scars are surgically induced. This is the incision that was made to drain the depth of the subscapular space. Mr. SPECTER. And there you are indicating an incision at what location, please? Dr. SHAW. Just at the angle of the shoulder blade. Here is the angle of the shoulder blade. These incisions were never closed by suture. These incisions were left open and they healed by what we call secondary intention, because in this case there was what we call a Penrose drain, which is a soft-rubber drain going up into the depths of the shoulder to allow any material to drain. This was to prevent infection. The other small opening was the one in which the tube was placed through the eighth interspace. Mr. SPECTER. Indicate its location, please, Doctor, on his back. Dr. SHAW. This is lower on the right back in what we refer to as the posterior axillary line, roughly this line. Mr. SPECTER. There you are drawing a vertical, virtually vertical line? Dr. SHAW. Yes. It is on the right back, but getting close to the lateral portion of the chest. This also was a stab wound which was never sutured. There was a rubber drain through this that led to what we call a water seal bottle to allow for drainage of the inside of the chest. Mr. SPECTER. Indicating again the second medically inflicted wound. Dr. SHAW. Yes; that is right. Mr. SPECTER. Will you now, Doctor, describe the location of the wound of exit on the Governor's chest, please? Dr. SHAW. Yes. The wound of exit was beneath and medial to the nipple. Here was this =V= that I was indicating. It is almost opposite that. At the time of the wound there was a ragged oval hole here at least 5 centimeters in diameter, but the skin edges were excised, and here again this scar does not look quite as nice as it does during the more lateral portion of the surgically induced incision, because this skin was brought together under a little tension, and there is a little separation there. Mr. SPECTER. Will you describe the entire scar there, Doctor, for the record, please?