Warren Commission (04 of 26): Hearings Vol. IV (of 15)United States. Warren Commission
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Warren Commission (04 of 26): Hearings Vol. IV (of 15)
United States. Warren Commission
Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963 -- Assassination; Oswald, Lee Harvey
Mr. FRITZ. Well, we call it now the CID. It would be ordinarily called
the detective division; yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Who is in charge of that?
Mr. FRITZ. Who is in charge of it?
Mr. BALL. Yes.
Mr. FRITZ. Of course, we are all directly under the chief, and Chief
Stevenson is the head of the CID, M. W. Stevenson.
Mr. BALL. Have you had any special training in police schools or places
like that?
Mr. FRITZ. Well, of course, I have had a good many years of experience,
and I attempted, I still go to school to our police schools, and I now
attend seminars at different places, Oklahoma University and Texas
University and go to most any training school that is available.
Mr. BALL. On November 22, 1963, you had been told the President or
before November 22, 1963, you had been told that the President was
coming to Dallas?
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. And had you taken certain precautions for his safety?
Mr. FRITZ. Well, we had taken some precautions but those were changed.
We were told in the beginning that we would be in the parade directly
behind it, I don't know whether it was the second or third car, but the
Vice President's car, that we would be directly behind that, and we did
make preparation for that.
But at 10 o'clock the night before the parade, Chief Stevenson called
me at home and told me that had been changed, and I was assigned with
two of my officers to the speakers' stand at the Trade Mart.
Mr. BALL. Was most of your work out at the Trade Mart that day?
Mr. FRITZ. Well, we didn't have a great deal of work to do there, other
than check the speakers' stand and make a check to see if everything
was all right before the President got there. He would have been there
in 10 more minutes.
Mr. BALL. Did you check the waiters who had been hired?
Mr. FRITZ. That wasn't my job.
Mr. BALL. Someone else did?
Mr. FRITZ. Someone else did; yes.
Mr. BALL. How many men did you have assigned?
Mr. FRITZ. Where?
Mr. BALL. With you at the Trade Mart.
Mr. FRITZ. Two.
Mr. BALL. Who were they?
Mr. FRITZ. Detectives Sims and Boyd.
Mr. BALL. And they are both homicide?
Mr. FRITZ. Both homicide officers; yes. I had other officers assigned
to different places. I had two of my officers assigned to ride in the
car that was in front of the parade a half mile, with Chief Lumpkin.
That was Senkel and Turner.
Mr. BALL. You were at the Trade Mart when you heard the President had
been shot?
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. That was about what time you heard that? You have a little
notebook there.
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir; I have a notebook.
Mr. BALL. Did you make notes as of that time?
Mr. FRITZ. We made this, not at that time, we made this after the
tragedy.
Mr. BALL. How long after?
Mr. FRITZ. We started on it real soon after, and we have been working
on it ever since.
Mr. BALL. Did somebody assist you in the preparation of that notebook?
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Who was that?
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