Mr. FRITZ. I had several officers assist me with this, and some secretaries, of course, that helped us with it. I had my lieutenant, T. L. Baker, help me to put this book together, this larger book, I think you have a copy of it there, and to make some additional books like this. Of course, we worked the whole office ever since it happened so it is hard to say just who helped. Mr. BALL. Now, the book you are talking about is a notebook that you have with you, the book at which you are looking now? Mr. FRITZ. This is the book I am talking about. Mr. BALL. You made a formal report, didn't you, to the attorney general of Texas? Mr. FRITZ. We, we didn't make it for the attorney general of Texas. At the time we made this we were just making, we were told that we would probably need a report for this investigation, and we started immediately to making this. We didn't know at that time the attorney general would need one of these but when we were told he would need one we, of course, sent him one, too. Mr. BALL. What I want to do is distinguish between the books you are looking at for this record. Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. You have a book that is of some size there? Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. And you call that what? Mr. FRITZ. Well, "Investigation of the Assassination of President Kennedy." Mr. BALL. That is the same as Commission's Document No. 81B. So, then, you have a smaller book before you, haven't you? Mr. FRITZ. Yes; a little index book. Mr. BALL. An index. Mr. FRITZ. It really is an index book for this larger file but it is kind of a quick reference book. Mr. BALL. I see. Now, what time did you, what time was it that you heard the President had been shot? Mr. FRITZ. I show that he was shot at 12:35, and one of the Secret Service men who was assigned the same location where we were assigned, got a little call on his, evidently got a call on his little transistor radio and Chief Stevenson, who was also assigned to some part of the building there, came to me and told me that the President had been hit at the underpass, and asked me to go to the hospital and see what I could do. Mr. BALL. You say you know he was shot at 12:35? Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. You mean that is the time you heard about it? Mr. FRITZ. Well, we heard about it immediately after that, and we arrived and we checked---- Mr. BALL. What time did you hear about it? Mr. FRITZ. Just when Chief Stevenson came to me and told me. Mr. BALL. Did you make a note of it at the time? Mr. FRITZ. No sir; I didn't make a note of it at the time. Mr. BALL. When you heard of this what did you do? Mr. FRITZ. Immediately left, and I told the two officers with me, Mr. Sims and Boyd that we would run to our police car that was parked nearby, listened to radio call to see whether it was a hoax or whether it was the truth. It was only 10 minutes' time for the President's arrival, we didn't want to leave unless this was a genuine call, and a true call.