Mr. SHANEYFELT. That is correct, on the basis stated. Mr. DULLES. But, you would have then the problem you would think if Connally had been hit at the same time, would have reacted in the same way, and not reacted much later as these pictures show. Mr. McCLOY. That is right. Mr. DULLES. Because the wounds would have been inflicted. Mr. McCLOY. That is what puzzles me. Mr. DULLES. That is what puzzles me. Senator COOPER. Would you identify the frame in which Governor Connally started turning to the right? Mr. SHANEYFELT. I might say that as--in the motion picture--as the car comes out from behind the signboard, the Governor is turned slightly to his right in this manner. This would be in the first frame, in frame 222, he is turned just slightly to his right, and from there on he turns almost square, straight on with the car momentarily, and there is a jerking motion there at one point in the film about there, at which time he starts to turn this way and continues to turn. Mr. DULLES. Jerky motion in Connally in the film. Mr. SHANEYFELT. There is--it may be merely where he stopped turning and started turning this way. It is hard to analyze. Mr. DULLES. What I wanted to get at--whether it was Connally who made the jerky motion or there was something in the film that was jerky. You can't tell. Mr. SHANEYFELT. You can't tell that. Mr. McCLOY. Certainly the film is jerky at that point. I mean there is a big blur. Mr. SHANEYFELT. He does turn. Mr. McCLOY. Just before and after that. Representative FORD. But isn't it apparent in those pictures that after a slight hesitation Governor Connally's body turns more violently than the President's body? Mr. SHANEYFELT. Yes. Representative FORD. The President's only reaction is a motion to his throat or to his neck with his hands. Mr. SHANEYFELT. That is correct. Representative FORD. Whereas Governor Connally actually turns his body rather sharply? Mr. SHANEYFELT. Yes; he turns as they go behind the signboard, he turns this way and he is turning a little bit this way and as he comes out of the signboard he is facing slightly to the right, comes around straight on and then he turns to his left straight on, and then he turns to his right, continues to turn around and falls over in Mrs. Connally's lap. But in the motion picture it is a continuous movement as he goes around and falls. Senator COOPER. Will you again answer my question which I asked and hasn't been answered and I say with all respect, in what frame did Governor Connally begin to turn to the right after he had placed his position straightforward as you have testified. Mr. SHANEYFELT. I am sorry. That starts approximately at frames 233 to 234. Senator COOPER. In what frame does the photograph show or in what frame is it shown that President Kennedy had moved his hands to his throat? Mr. SHANEYFELT. That shows on frame--it is clearer on frame 226, 225 is the frame where you first see him, and frame 226.