Mr. DULLES. How many frames between those two? Mr. SHANEYFELT. From 26 to 33, eight. That would be a fraction of a second in time. That is less than half second. Representative FORD. It can be contended that based on these photographs of films that the first shot apparently was fired in frames 220 to 224, in that area. Mr. SHANEYFELT. Yes; I think you have to go back even to 210 because of reaction times; we don't know reaction times. But I would say between 210 and 225 because at 225 we have the President reacting. So, in that 15 frames there it is behind the signboard, we can't see what is happening. Mr. DULLES. What frame first shows him with his hands at his throat? Mr. SHANEYFELT. 225, 226. Mr. McCLOY. 225, it is not too clear. It is much more pronounced in the next frame is where he puts his both hands to his throat, such as that. Mr. DULLES. And Mrs. Kennedy has apparently turned around and looking at him. Mr. McCLOY. One hand may be coming down from waving in 225. Mr. DULLES. That is his left hand there--no; it is his right hand, your right. His right hand. Representative FORD. Then based on the mathematics of how quickly a second shot could be fired, the second shot would be fired in approximately what frame? If you assume it, the first shot is from 210 to 224. Mr. SHANEYFELT. It would be 252 to 266, down in there. Representative FORD. That would be the elapsed time of what? Mr. SHANEYFELT. Two and a quarter seconds. Representative FORD. Two and a quarter seconds. Mr. SHANEYFELT. That is the very quickest. Mr. SPECTER. On fixing the range from frames 210 to 225, where the President was first struck, did you take frame 210 because that was the first point after the President had passed out from under the oak tree? Mr. SHANEYFELT. Yes; that is the first point from this, and although we are able to see in the films that there is no apparent reaction from the President from 203 to 210, and as he disappears from behind the signboard, we cannot estimate the reaction time. Mr. SPECTER. When you say reaction time you mean? Mr. SHANEYFELT. Of the President? Mr. SPECTER. Reaction time from 205---- Representative FORD. To 210? Mr. SHANEYFELT. Yes. Representative FORD. But there at frame 210, that is the first point at which the marksman had a clear shot after the President passed out from under the tree. Mr. SHANEYFELT. That is correct. Representative FORM. Then you select frame 225 as the outside limit of the shot which struck the President because that is where you first observe a reaction by the President when he comes out from behind the sign. Mr. SHANEYFELT. That is correct. Mr. DULLES. What frames are blanked out because of the sign? Mr. SHANEYFELT. The President, the last we get any scene of him at all, and this is just the very top of his head is 210. Mr. DULLES. 210 to what is blanked out? Mr. SHANEYFELT. 225. Mr. DULLES. To 225 is blanked out? Mr. SHANEYFELT. Yes, that is 15 frames.