Mr. BELIN. Now, Mr. Couch, shortly before we commenced taking this deposition, you and I met for the first time. Is that correct? Mr. COUCH. That's correct. Mr. BELIN. And then we came to this room and we chatted for a few minutes before we started taking a formal deposition. Is that correct? Mr. COUCH. That's correct. Mr. BELIN. Now, is there anything that we talked about pertaining to the assassination that in any way differs or conflicts with the testimony that you have just given? Mr. COUCH. No; no. Mr. BELIN. What is the fact as to whether or not I questioned you in great detail about each question or whether or not I just asked you to relate the story to me? Mr. COUCH. You asked me to give general highlight impressions before we began. Mr. BELIN. And then, after you gave those to me, we started taking the deposition--is that correct? Mr. COUCH. That's correct. Mr. BELIN. And then you repeated on the deposition what we had talked about--is that right? Mr. COUCH. That's right--in more detail. Mr. BELIN. Is there anything else that you can think of at this time which, in any way, would affect the investigation of the assassination of President Kennedy? Mr. COUCH. No; I cannot think of anything. Mr. BELIN. Well, we want to thank you very much for taking your time to come down here. We know that you're a busy man. We also would like you to convey our thanks to station WFAA-TV for allowing you to come down here. We appreciate it very much. Mr. COUCH. Thank you, sir. Mr. BELIN. Mr. Couch, we're going back on the record again. You're still under oath--and I'm not quite sure whether I asked this question, but I had better ask it again. When you saw this rifle being withdrawn. About how much of it could you see at first? Mr. COUCH. I'd say just about a foot of it. Mr. BELIN. And in what direction was the barrel pointing at the time you saw it being withdrawn? Mr. COUCH. Approximately a 45° angle westward--which would be pointing down Elm Street. Mr. BELIN. Down Elm Street as it goes into the expressway there? Mr. COUCH. That's right. Mr. BELIN. And when you say "45° angle" would that be up or down, or are you referring to the angle of incline, or the angle of west and south? Mr. COUCH. The angle of incline--from a horizontal position. Mr. BELIN. All right. So, you would estimate about a 45° angle downward pointing in what would be a southwesterly direction? Mr. COUCH. Uh--westerly direction. From looking straight on at the building, one could not tell the--uh--angle, whether it was more southward or not. In other words, something sticking out the building, I couldn't tell. It was not--it did not appear to me that it was sticking straight out the window, so to speak. Mr. BELIN. Yes. Is there anything else that you noticed about the gun? Mr. COUCH. No. Mr. BELIN. All right. Thank you. I just wanted to make sure I got that on the record. TESTIMONY OF TOM C. DILLARD