Mr. COUCH. No; I don't recall what he got--as I recall--now, I may be wrong, this is a guess--that he did not take any pictures. Mr. BELIN. He did not take any? Mr. COUCH. No. Mr. BELIN. Do you know of anyone that took any pictures of the south side of the School Book Depository Building, particularly the front entrance of the building, shortly after the assassination? Dr. COUCH. No; only what I have seen in Time magazine. Mr. BELIN. Only what you've seen in Time magazine? Mr. COUCH. Right. Mr. BELIN. Now, did you ever know or hear of Lee Harvey Oswald before any of this? Mr. COUCH. No. Mr. BELIN. Have you ever met Jack Ruby? Mr. COUCH. No. Mr. BELIN. There is an FBI report that states that you had heard hearsay statements that someone had seen Jack Ruby emerge from the rear of the Texas School Book Depository Building around that time. Did anyone ever tell you that? Mr. COUCH. Yes. Uh--where I first heard it, I could not now recall; but--uh--the story went that--uh--Wes Wise, who works for KRLD---- Mr. BELIN. TV? Mr. COUCH. Yes--saw him moments after the shooting--how many moments, I don't know--5 minutes, 10 minutes--coming around the side of the building, coming around the east side going south, I presume. Mr. BELIN. Did you ever talk to Wes Wise as to whether or not he actually saw this, or is this just hearsay? Mr. COUCH. No; I didn't. This is just hearsay. Mr. BELIN. Let me ask you this: Is there any observation, other than hearsay, that you have about this entire sequence of events that you have not related here? Mr. COUCH. No; I can't think of anything. No. Mr. BELIN. In this same FBI report of an interview with you, it states that--and by the way, I did not show this to you when you first chatted about this--is that correct? Mr. COUCH. Uh-huh; that's right. Mr. BELIN. There is a statement as to the time sequence--that you heard, first, two loud noises about 10 seconds apart. And you related here that it would have been 5 seconds apart or less. Do you remember whether or not at the time you gave your first statement to the FBI you said 10 seconds or would you have said about 10 seconds or would you have said less than 10 seconds--or could this be inaccurate, as sometimes happens? Mr. COUCH. I don't recall now. Ten seconds is not a reasonable time; even if I said "about 10 seconds." I know a little bit more about timing than that. We have to time our stories pretty close--and that's a long time. Mr. BELIN. And what's your best recollection now as to the amount of time between shots? Mr. COUCH. Well, I would say the longest time would be 5 seconds, but it could be from 3 to 5. Mr. BELIN. And would this be true between the first and the second shots as well as between the second and third--or would there have been a difference? Mr. COUCH. As I recall, the time sequence between the three were relatively the same.