Mr. BALL. We have two here. First of all, you made one picture with a wide lens? Mr. DILLARD. Yes. Mr. BALL. And you made a picture with a short lens? Mr. DILLARD. Long lens--short and wide are the same. Mr. BALL. A short, wide lens and one long lens. Now, I show you two pictures and I mark one "A" and mark one "B." Look them over and tell me whether or not those are prints from the picture that you made that day. Mr. DILLARD. These are prints from one of the negatives I made on November 22. Mr. BALL. And then you will furnish us two prints, one from each negative which we will mark as "C" and "D" and you will initial them, is that correct? Mr. DILLARD. That is correct. Mr. BALL. Do you mind initialing the "A" and "B" and we will make it part of this deposition--just on the back? Mr. DILLARD. One of them will be the same picture as these two. These two are prints from one of my negatives. Mr. BALL. That will be all right. Mr. DILLARD. I have another negative. Mr. BALL. Which you will make a print of? Mr. DILLARD. If you wish. Mr. BALL. Make up a print from each negative. Now, you made a statement to Agent Keutzer of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on the 25th of November 1963, didn't you, or thereabouts? Mr. DILLARD. Yes. Mr. BALL. And at that time, you told him that you first heard a noise which sounded like a torpedo, didn't you? Mr. DILLARD. Yes, I said---- Mr. BALL. Off the record. (Off-record discussion.) Mr. BALL. Did you tell him that hearing another sound similar to that, you realized it was gunfire? Mr. DILLARD. Yes. Mr. BALL. And you heard the third shot. Now, the statement says that upon hearing the third shot, the car in which he was riding was stopped almost in front of the Texas School Book Depository Building. Mr. DILLARD. My car? Mr. BALL. Yes. Mr. DILLARD. Yes. Mr. BALL. Did you hear Bob Jackson of the Dallas Times-Herald exclaim "I see a rifle; it's up in the open window". Mr. DILLARD. Yes. Mr. BALL. And Jackson pointed to the Texas School Book Depository located at Elm and Houston Streets? Mr. DILLARD. That's right. Mr. BALL. And you looked up at the building and you did not see a rifle protruding from any window? Mr. DILLARD. I did not see a rifle. Mr. BALL. But you did take two photographs? Mr. DILLARD. Correct. Mr. BALL. And you still have those negatives? Mr. DILLARD. That's true. Mr. BALL. Were you ever in a position where you could see anyone leave the Texas School Book Depository Building? Mr. DILLARD. Briefly, only in the very short time, perhaps a period of 3 or 4 minutes, that I was in the general area. After the third shot, I was probably not there over 3 or 4 minutes. Mr. BALL. Did you see anybody leave the building? Mr. DILLARD. To my knowledge; no. Mr. BALL. I think that's everything. Will you waive signature on this? Mr. DILLARD. Sure. Mr. BALL. Thank you, sir. Mr. DILLARD. That's all right, glad to help. TESTIMONY OF JAMES ROBERT UNDERWOOD