Mrs. ROWLAND. Well, the people generally ran towards the railroad tracks behind the School Book Depository Building, and so I naturally assumed they came from there, because that is where all the policemen and everyone was going, and I couldn't tell where the sounds came from. Mr. BELIN. So you just started over after them? Mrs. ROWLAND. Yes. Mr. BELIN. Did your husband go with you? Mrs. ROWLAND. Yes; I grabbed his hand and he couldn't go anyplace else. Mr. BELIN. Were you running or walking over there? Mrs. ROWLAND. It wasn't a very fast run, but it wasn't a walk. Mr. BELIN. Did you talk about anything, about the man that you had seen in the window? Mrs. ROWLAND. No. But he was reluctant to start running, and he might have been looking up there, I don't know. But we didn't say anything about the man. Mr. BELIN. What did you do when you got over there? Where did you run to? Mrs. ROWLAND. To the colonnade over on the north side of Elm Street. Mr. BELIN. As Elm Street goes down to the freeway? Mrs. ROWLAND. Yes. Mr. BELIN. Then where did you go? Mrs. ROWLAND. We walked towards the railroad tracks, but the policeman wouldn't let anybody go further. Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do? Mrs. ROWLAND. We just stood there and he was speculating on what had happened, and he was looking around at everything, and the policeman inspected a Coke drink bottle that was there, and my husband found a pen, very cheap ballpoint pen that you get as an advertisement, and he gave it to the policeman, and then he mentioned the man he had seen in the School Book Depository Building, and then the man took us to the records building. Mr. BELIN. Who did your husband mention this to? Was this some police officer? Mrs. ROWLAND. I am not certain. The first man he mentioned it to was wearing plain clothes, and we didn't see him again, I don't think. And then there were some other men who took us to the building. I don't know who they were. Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do when you got to the building? Did you stay with your husband? Mrs. ROWLAND. Yes. Mr. BELIN. He was questioned in the building? Mrs. ROWLAND. Yes. Mr. BELIN. Did you hear what your husband said? Mrs. ROWLAND. Yes. Mr. BELIN. Could you describe what went on in the building? Mrs. ROWLAND. When we first came in, we went into an office that had glass windows around it. There was a man sitting there with a child. I think it was a boy and he said that he had seen the President shot and he said that--he didn't say there were three shots, I think he said there was one, or maybe he said there were more than three, but he didn't say there were three shots. Then we went out into an open area in the building, a fairly open area, and there were some reporters in there, and they started asking us questions which we didn't answer, because mainly we didn't have time.