Mr. BELIN. Anything else at that place then that you specifically remember before the motorcade came by? Did your husband say anything about seeing anyone in the building, or did you talk any more about the man with the rifle? Mrs. ROWLAND. I really don't remember very much about what happened afterward. I mean it was just---- Mr. BELIN. I mean between, in the 15 minutes preceding the motorcade? Mrs. ROWLAND. I remember hearing on the radio that the President was passing Ervay Street. It wasn't on our radio, somebody else's radio, and that is about all. Mr. BELIN. Anything else you can think of? Mrs. ROWLAND. No. Mr. BELIN. By the way, what color dress were you wearing that day? Mrs. ROWLAND. Oh, my, I am fairly certain I was either wearing a green suit or red and gray suit, but I am not positive. Mr. BELIN. What kind of coat, if you were wearing a coat? Mrs. ROWLAND. I was wearing a brown coat, brown suede coat. Mr. BELIN. Do you remember what your husband was wearing? Mrs. ROWLAND. He was wearing a plaid sports jacket, probably. I am not sure which sports jacket, but I think he was wearing a plaid sports jacket that was blue and had some black and grey in it. Mr. BELIN. Was he wearing any overcoat over the sports jacket? Mrs. ROWLAND. Oh, no; I wasn't wearing that brown coat, I don't think. I think I was wearing an olive coat. He probably had his overcoat, but it is more of a raincoat. Mr. BELIN. Were you wearing gloves? Mrs. ROWLAND. Yes. Mr. BELIN. Was he wearing gloves? Mrs. ROWLAND. Yes. Mr. BELIN. Were you wearing a hat? Mrs. ROWLAND. No; a scarf. Mr. BELIN. Was he wearing a hat, do you remember? Mrs. ROWLAND. He might have been. He wears one sometimes. Sometimes he doesn't. Mr. BELIN. Is there anything else you remember about what happened prior to the time the motorcade came by? Mrs. ROWLAND. No. Mr. BELIN. All right, now, will you please tell us what happened as the motorcade went by? Mrs. ROWLAND. Well, Mrs. Kennedy was wearing a blue--I mean a pink or maybe a rose--it was either pink or rose dress or suit, I couldn't say, because she was sitting. She had a pink hat or rose, the same shade as her dress. And I remember noticing that the President's hair was sort of red, that is all. They were facing mainly toward the other side of the street and waving, and as they turned the corner we heard a shot, and I didn't recognize it as being a shot. I just heard a sound, and I thought it might be a firecracker. And the people started laughing at first, and then we heard two more shots, and they were closer than the first and second, and that is all. Mr. BELIN. How many shots did you hear all told? Mrs. ROWLAND. Three. Mr. BELIN. When you said you heard two more shots that were closer than the first and second, what did you mean? Mrs. ROWLAND. I meant the second and third were closer than the first and second. Mr. BELIN. Mrs. Rowland, did you have any idea where the shots came from or the sound?