Mr. SPECTER. Assume that the Texas School Book Depository is this large building which I will mark "TSBD." Now, would you place with the letter "A" where you were at the time the President went by? Mrs. HILL. Well, I would have to place the President first. Mr. SPECTER. Fine--place him with the letter "X". Mrs. HILL. All right--if he were here---- Mr. SPECTER. Now, was he in the center of the street or on the side of the street? Mrs. HILL. He was on the side--he wasn't just completely over there, but he was past the center of the street and we were---- Mr. SPECTER. Now, place yourself with the letter "A". Mrs. HILL. Right there [indicating]. Mr. SPECTER. Make it a big printed "A" for us. Mrs. HILL. Okay. [Complied with request of counsel Specter.] Mr. SPECTER. Now, would you place the position you ran to after the President's car went by? Mrs. HILL. By that time, I'm sure the car was here--it was on down a little way, and I ran behind here. Mr. SPECTER. Draw a line to where you ran. Mrs. HILL. All right--I don't know whether I've got this just right--but I ran approximately right up through here. Mr. SPECTER. Put a "B" here where you were when you came to a stop on the other side of the street. Mrs. HILL. These steps. Mr. SPECTER. Now, where were you when you first noticed the---- Mrs. HILL. These steps that go up--I guess you've looked at the site, there are some steps down there that go up to that promenade, or whatever you call it. Mr. SPECTER. That go in a generally westerly direction? Mrs. HILL. Yes. Mr. SPECTER. Beyond the Texas School Book Depository Building? Mrs. HILL. Yes; and I was just on this side---- Mr. SPECTER. "This side"--you are meaning--the east of it? Mrs. HILL. The east of it. Mr. SPECTER. Were you beyond the westernmost point of the Texas School Book Depository Building? Mrs. HILL. No. Mr. SPECTER. You were still in front of that building? Mrs. HILL. That's right. Mr. SPECTER. Now, is the letter "B" now in the position where you were when you first saw that man? Mrs. HILL. Yes. Mr. SPECTER. Where was that man, indicating with the letter "C," where he was? He was very close to you? Mrs. HILL. Well, he was at the top of this hill--you don't leave me any space in here--I mean, there's a distance in here greater than what is shown here. Mr. SPECTER. He was between Elm Street and the Depository Building? Mrs. HILL. Yes. Mr. SPECTER. And where did you see him going? Mrs. HILL. I saw him go toward the tracks, toward the railroad tracks to the west? Mr. SPECTER. What did you observe about that man, if anything? Mrs. HILL. That he just had on a brown overcoat and a hat. Mr. SPECTER. Why was your attention attracted to him?