I turned around and immediately notified Miss Audrey Bell, who is the operating room supervisor so that any arrangements could be made for immediate surgery, and Dr. M. T. Jenkins, who is the Chief of the Anesthesiology Department. From there I went across the room and notified Dr. Perry of the shooting and we both went together to the emergency room, and it was at that time we arrived shortly after the President had been brought in. Mr. SPECTER. What is your best estimate as to the time you arrived at the emergency room? Dr. JONES. It was, I would say, around 23 or 25 minutes until 1. Mr. SPECTER. And who was present, if anyone, at the time you arrived? Dr. JONES. Dr. James Carrico, and possibly Dr. Richard Dulany, and I'm not sure that he was there or was there for just a few minutes after we arrived. I do recall seeing him there as one of the first ones. Mr. SPECTER. Was any nurse present at that time? Dr. JONES. The head nurse in the emergency room was present and---- Mr. SPECTER. Do you know her name? Dr. JONES. It's left my mind right now--I know her. Mr. SPECTER. Could that be Miss Henchliffe? Dr. JONES. She was there, I believe. Mr. SPECTER. Mrs. Bowron? Dr. JONES. No--just the-- Mr. SPECTER. Mrs. Nelson? Dr. JONES. Nelson. Mr. SPECTER. Was anyone else present then, other than those whom you have already mentioned at the time you arrived? Dr. JONES. There were three nurses there--Mrs. Nelson, Miss Henchliffe and Miss Bowron. Mr. SPECTER. And were any other doctors present when you arrived? Dr. JONES. Dr. Carrico was the only doctor other than possibly Dr. Dulany, and I do know Dr. Carrico was there when I arrived. Mr. SPECTER. Was Dr. Don Curtis there when you arrived? Dr. JONES. I didn't see him. Mr. SPECTER. And who arrived with you, if you recall? Dr. JONES. Dr. Perry. Mr. SPECTER. And what did you observe the President's condition to be upon your arrival? Dr. JONES. He appeared to be terminal, if not already expired, and Dr. Carrico said that he had seen some attempted respirations, agonal respirations, and with that history, we went ahead with emergency measures to try to restore the airway. Mr. SPECTER. When you say "attempted agonal respiration," do you mean an effort by the President? Dr. JONES. Yes. Mr. SPECTER. Or, an effort by someone else to induce respiration? Dr. JONES. No, these apparently were as Dr. Carrico saw the President was attempting to respire on his own, however, I did not personally see this in the brief seconds that I stood there before I went ahead and started work. Mr. SPECTER. What is the lay definition for agonal respiration? Dr. JONES. These are the respirations that are somewhat of a strain, that is, seen in a patient who is expiring--just very short, irregular type respirations. Mr. SPECTER. Would you continue now to describe what you observed to be the President's condition?