Mr. HAWKINS. It seemed like we were still in the theatre. After we got outside, I couldn't hear him say anything. There was a large crowd out front and they all started yelling when we came out the front door. Mr. BALL. A witness testified yesterday that as the police brought Oswald from the theatre to the car, that two men were standing beside him, were walking beside him, and that another officer had his arm around his neck and under his chin so as to close his mouth--did you see anything like that? Mr. HAWKINS. I don't remember seeing this. I walked out--the best I can remember--I was behind the group and there were at least three officers, I am sure, directly around him and maybe more, but I was behind him and walked up behind him--I don't recall anyone having him around the neck at that time. Mr. BALL. Did you do any more work on the investigation of the assassination of the President or the killing of Tippit? Mr. HAWKINS. No, sir; the only thing I did following this--we went to the personnel bureau and made a statement, or wrote a report on the arrest, and that was the last thing I had done. Mr. BALL. Did you see the pistol at the personnel bureau? Mr. HAWKINS. Yes, sir; I did. Mr. BALL. Did you see McDonald mark it? Mr. HAWKINS. Did I see McDonald mark it? Mr. BALL. Yes. Mr. HAWKINS. Yes, sir; McDonald, and I believe Sergeant Hill marked it or possibly Bob Carroll. There were, I believe, two people who marked it. Mr. BALL. Did you see anybody unload the gun? Mr. HAWKINS. No, sir; not unload it. I believe the gun was unloaded whenever I got there, but they put Oswald in the car and three or four men rode with him and then Officer Baggett and I came back to the station and it was probably 30 to 45 minutes after they got there that we arrived at the station. Mr. BALL. Did you see the bullets? Mr. HAWKINS. I saw the bullets--yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Did you ever examine them closely? Mr. HAWKINS. I looked at them and one of them appeared to have a small indentation where it looked like it might have been struck and did not fire. Mr. BALL. I think that's all, officer. Now, this will be written up and you can read it and sign it, or you can waive signature--just as you wish--which do you prefer? Mr. HAWKINS. I would just as soon sign it. Mr. BALL. All right, we will have you sign it. Mr. HAWKINS. All right. Mr. BALL. Thank you very much. Mr. HAWKINS. Will you notify me when you want me to sign it? Mr. BALL. We will give you a telephone call. Mr. HAWKINS. You will give me a telephone call? Mr. BALL. Yes, sir. Mr. HAWKINS. All right. Mr. BALL. Thank you very much. TESTIMONY OF L. D. MONTGOMERY