Mr. BOYD. Well, Captain Fritz signed a murder complaint against Lee Harvey Oswald and that was for the murder of J. D. Tippit. Mr. BALL. Was there some conversation that took place there at that time in front of Oswald? Mr. BOYD. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. What was it, that you can remember? Mr. BOYD. Well, I believe Judge Johnston, I believe, read the charge to Oswald, and--well, I don't recall the rest of that conversation. Mr. BALL. Do you remember what Oswald said? Mr. BOYD. No, sir. Mr. BALL. At any time in any of the interrogations did you ever hear of anyone accuse Oswald of having shot Officer Tippit? Mr. BOYD. Yes, sir--I heard--I believe I heard Captain Fritz talk to him about shooting Officer Tippit--I don't remember what interrogation it was in. Mr. BALL. What did Oswald say? Mr. BOYD. He said he didn't shoot anyone. Mr. BALL. Did you ever hear anybody accuse Oswald of shooting the President, President Kennedy? Mr. BOYD. I remember hearing them talk to him about shooting the President. Mr. BALL. Who talked to him about it? Mr. BOYD. I believe it was Captain Fritz. Mr. BALL. What did Oswald say? Mr. BOYD. He said he didn't shoot anyone. Mr. BALL. Now, do you remember what Oswald said when Judge Johnston read the charge to Oswald? The charge of murder of Tippit, if he said anything? Mr. BOYD. I think he said something, but I cannot tell you what it was. Mr. BALL. You don't recall that? Mr. BOYD. No, sir. Mr. BALL. Oswald did make some statement, though? Mr. BOYD. I believe he said something--yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Did he ask for a lawyer? Mr. BOYD. Well, let me see, he wanted to get in touch with a lawyer--I believe it was a lawyer by the name of Abt [spelling] A-b-t in New York City. Mr. BALL. When did he say that? When did he tell you that? Mr. BOYD. It was--either right before the first showup, or right after the first showup. Mr. BALL. What did you tell him? Mr. BOYD. Captain Fritz said he would--he didn't ask me, he was talking to Captain Fritz--yes. Mr. BALL. This was in Captain Fritz' office? Mr. BOYD. Yes. Mr. BALL. What did Fritz say? Mr. BOYD. He said he would see if he could make arrangements later on for him to use the telephone later on and call him. Mr. BALL. Was anything said about who would pay for the call? Mr. BOYD. No, sir. Mr. BALL. No mention of that? Mr. BOYD. I think he said he would call collect--I'm not sure. Mr. BALL. Who said that--Oswald? Mr. BOYD. Oswald. Mr. BALL. Now, after the murder complaint was signed, what did you do? Mr. BOYD. Well, let me see, I believe after that was signed, Mr. Clements--I believe, came in there. Mr. BALL. In where? Mr. BOYD. In Captain Fritz' office, and started talking to Lee Oswald. Mr. BALL. And do you remember what he asked him?