Mr. BOYD. Well, I know he asked him about his name and I think he asked him where he was born, I think, and he asked him about his life in Russia--when he went to Russia and when he came back--I don't recall all of that. Mr. BALL. And Oswald answered the questions? Mr. BOYD. Yes, sir; I'll tell you--Oswald, he answered his questions until he finally--well, this interrogation was interrupted by another showup, and after we came back up Mr. Clements continued his interrogation and finally Oswald told him he was just tired talking and he thought he had talked long enough and he didn't have anything else to say. He came in there and he wanted to get a little--well, he told him he wanted to get a little of his personal history and background, and Oswald finally got up and said, "What started out to be a short interrogation turned out to be rather lengthy," and he said, "I believe I have answered all the questions I have cared to answer, and I don't care to say anything else." And sat back down. Mr. BALL. He stood up and said that, did he? Mr. BOYD. Yes; he stood up and said it. He just sat back in the chair and said, "I don't care to talk any more." Mr. BALL. The first interrogation by Clements was interrupted, wasn't it? Mr. BOYD. Yes. Mr. BALL. That was interrupted by a showup, and that would be the third showup that you participated in? Mr. BOYD. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. And that took place at what time? Mr. BOYD. It was 7:30, let me see, no--7:40. Mr. BALL. And who took part in that showup? Mr. BOYD. You mean the officers? Mr. BALL. No; who were the parties in the showup? Mr. BOYD. Well, the first one was Richard Walter Borchgardt, and No. 2 was Lee Harvey Oswald, and No. 3 was--I have the wrong name in here--I have the last name--I just asked him his name as he came out in the showup room there and I understood him to say it was Braswell but it was Brazel. Mr. BALL. Brazell--how do you spell that? Mr. BOYD. [Spelling.] Brazel. B-r-a-z-e-l. Mr. BALL. What is his full name? Mr. BOYD. Ellis Carl Brazel. Mr. BALL. He was the third man? Mr. BOYD. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Who was the fourth man? Mr. BOYD. Don Ables was the fourth. Mr. BALL. Was there some reason why you changed the parties to the showup? Mr. BOYD. I don't know any reason. Mr. BALL. Who directed that? Mr. BOYD. I don't know--we met them down in the jail office and they had those three men down there. Mr. BALL. What is the usual thing--when you are going to have a showup and you are in charge of investigation, who picks the people who appear in the showup? Mr. BOYD. Well, most of the time we call down to the jail office and have them send us down--if he's already in jail, we just have them send up there and get him and just how many we want in the showup and we will tell them to give us this particular one--or three or four men--whatever the case may be. Mr. BALL. Who picks them? Mr. BOYD. The jailers upstairs.