Mrs. POSTAL. No, sir; I told Johnny this, don't tell him, because he is an excitable person, and just have him, you know, go with you and examine the exits and check real good, so, he came back and said he hadn't seen anything although, he had heard a seat pop up like somebody getting out, but there was nobody around that area, so, I told Johnny about the fact that the President had been assassinated. "I don't know if this is the man they want," I said, "in there, but he is running from them for some reason," and I said "I am going to call the police, and you and Butch go get on each of the exit doors and stay there." So, well, I called the police, and he wanted to know why I thought it was their man, and I said, "Well, I didn't know," and he said, "Well, it fits the description," and I have not--I said I hadn't heard the description. All I know is, "This man is running from them for some reason." And he wanted to know why, and told him because everytime the sirens go by he would duck and he wanted to know--well, if he fits the description is what he says. I said, "Let me tell you what he looks like and you take it from there." And explained that he had on this brown sports shirt and I couldn't tell you what design it was, and medium height, ruddy looking to me, and he said, "Thank you," and I called the operator and asked him to look through the little hole and see if he could see anything and told him I had called the police, and what was happening, and he wanted to know if I wanted him to cut the picture off, and I says, "No, let's wait until they get here." So, seemed like I hung up the intercom phone when here all of a sudden, police cars, policemen, plainclothesmen, I never saw so many people in my life. And they raced in, and the next thing I knew, they were carrying--well, that is when I first heard Officer Tippit had been shot because some officer came in the box office and used the phone, said, "I think we have got our man on both accounts." "What two accounts?" And said, "Well, Officer Tippit's," shocked me, because Officer Tippit used to work part time for us years ago. I didn't know him personally. Mr. BALL. You mean he guarded the theatre? Mrs. POSTAL. On Friday nights and Saturdays, canvass the theatre, you know, and that--then they were bringing Oswald out the door over there and---- Mr. BALL. Well, now, was this before they had gone into the theatre that this officer used the phone? Mrs. POSTAL. No, sir. Mr. BALL. It was after? Mrs. POSTAL. There was not one man walked through this theatre. They were running. Mr. BALL. Did the officers go in the front of the theatre? Mrs. POSTAL. Yes. Definitely. Mr. BALL. Did you go in? Mrs. POSTAL. No, sir; I stayed at the box office. Mr. BALL. You didn't see anything that happened inside? Mrs. POSTAL. No, sir. Mr. BALL. Did you see them bring a man out? Mrs. POSTAL. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. How many men had hold of him?