Mr. BALL. Nos. 1, 2, 3, and 4? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. All right. Mr. SIMS. I'm sure I did. Mr. BALL. Well, I wasn't sure you did, but give us the numbers assigned to the second showup. Mr. SIMS. The first showup at 4:05 was No. 1, Bill Perry, Lee Oswald, R. L. Clark, and Don Ables. Mr. BALL. That was the order--one, two, three, four? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir; one, two, three, four. Mr. BALL. Now, give us the order of the second showup? Mr. SIMS. Numbered the same for the second showup. Mr. BALL. The same numbers? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. The same men? Mr. SIMS. Same men and same numbers. Mr. BALL. After that showup, what did you do? Mr. SIMS. We went back to Captain Fritz' office, and let me see, at 6:37, we left the showup and went back to Captain Fritz' office. Mr. BALL. And what did you do then? Mr. SIMS. We stayed with Oswald. Mr. BALL. Now, in your report, you mentioned that a murder complaint was signed by Fritz that evening? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Were you present when that happened? Mr. SIMS. Yes. Mr. BALL. Was Oswald present also? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. He was present when the murder complaint was signed? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Where did this take place? Mr. SIMS. In Captain Fritz' office. Mr. BALL. And who was present? Mr. SIMS. Well, let me see--Justice of the Peace Dave Johnston, and Assistant District Attorney Bill Alexander, and I don't know who else was there--I don't know who else was present. Mr. BALL. Was the judge there--the justice judge--the J.P., Dave Johnston? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. And Bill Alexander and Fritz? Mr. SIMS. Yes. Mr. BALL. And you? And Boyd? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. And Oswald was there? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Was anything said to Oswald about the signing of a murder complaint? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. What was said, and who said it? Mr. SIMS. I don't remember what was said--I know Judge Johnston talked to him and Captain Fritz talked to him. Mr. BALL. And did Alexander talk to him? Mr. SIMS. I believe he did, but I'm not positive about that. Mr. BALL. Do you remember what Judge Johnston said? Mr. SIMS. No, sir; I don't. Mr. BALL. Do you remember what Oswald said? Mr. SIMS. No, sir. Mr. BALL. Did anyone tell him that a murder complaint was being filed against him? Mr. SIMS. I believe so; yes, sir. Mr. BALL. For what murder? Mr. SIMS. For Officer Tippit. Mr. BALL. Do you remember what Oswald said? Mr. SIMS. No, sir; I don't. Mr. BALL. Then what did you do with Oswald after that? Mr. SIMS. At 7:40 we entered the third showup. Mr. BALL. Now, at 7:30 an FBI agent came in, didn't he, according to your records? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir; at 7:30--we sat in the office with Oswald and Mr. Clements of the FBI came in and interrogated Oswald. Mr. BALL. You and Boyd were there? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. What did Clements ask him? Mr. SIMS. I don't remember the questions he asked him.