Mr. SIMS. I was over there, I believe, when they finished up with the pictures, and I picked the three hulls up and laid them on what I believed to be a box of books there near the window, and Lieutenant Day dusted them for fingerprints. Mr. BELIN. Then when your testimony was taken, did you specifically remember what you did with those hulls? Mr. SIMS. I didn't remember who brought the hulls to the city hall. Mr. BELIN. Since that time have you had an opportunity to refresh your recollection as to what happened to the hulls? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir; I talked to Captain Fritz and E. L. Boyd, my partner, and refreshed my memory. Mr. BELIN. What was said, and what do you now say happened? Mr. SIMS. Captain Fritz told me to get the hulls after Lieutenant Day finished with them and to take possession of them. Mr. BELIN. What did you do? Mr. SIMS. I did that. Mr. BELIN. How did you take possession of them? Mr. SIMS. I placed them in an envelope and put them in my coat pocket. Mr. BELIN. Do you remember which pocket? Mr. SIMS. No, sir. Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do with them? Mr. SIMS. When we got to the city hall, I gave them to Captain Fritz in his office. Mr. BELIN. Do you remember what time that was, possibly? Mr. SIMS. No, sir; they took my notes the other day. I couldn't say. Whenever we arrived back at the city hall, they have what time that was. Mr. BELIN. Do you remember what the occasion was of your going down to the city hall there? Is that why you happened to go down to the city hall that afternoon? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir; we were going to get started on Oswald. Mr. BELIN. Were you on your way down there to investigate whether or not he had any record? Mr. SIMS. I didn't know what he had at the time. I don't remember. I was driving, and captain, we stopped at the sheriff's office for a few minutes, and then went directly from there to the city hall. Mr. BELIN. Why were you going to get started on Oswald? Mr. SIMS. I don't know. Captain Fritz said go to the city hall. Mr. BELIN. Did he tell you that they were going to get started on Oswald? Mr. SIMS. No. He said go to the city hall. Mr. BELIN. And that is what you did? Mr. SIMS. Yes. Mr. BELIN. When you got to the city hall, did you go directly to Captain Fritz' office? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BELIN. When you got there, was anyone inside? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BELIN. Who was there? Mr. SIMS. His office was full of people. Mr. BELIN. Was Lee Oswald one of them? Mr. SIMS. Yes. Mr. BELIN. In Captain Fritz' office? Mr. SIMS. No. He was, I believe, now in the interrogation room. I am not positive. He wasn't in Captain Fritz' office. Mr. BELIN. What did you do with that envelope when you got to Captain Fritz' office? Mr. SIMS. I laid it on his desk and told him there was the hulls, or either gave it to him. Mr. BELIN. You don't remember which one? Mr. SIMS. No.