Mr. BALL. All right. That will be Exhibit A of this deposition. (Instrument marked by the reporter as "Sims Exhibit A," for identification.) Mr. BALL. That is the written report you made to the police department of the events of the investigation on Friday, November 22, and Saturday, November 23? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir; and the day of Oswald's murder on the 24th. Mr. BALL. That was the 24th? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. This will be written up by the shorthand reporter and you can read it if you wish and make any changes you wish and sign it, or you can waive your signature and we will send it on to the Commission as you have here testified as she has taken it down. Do you have any preference on that? Mr. SIMS. No, sir. Mr. BALL. Do you want to waive your signature? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Fine. That will be all right. Thanks a lot. Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir. TESTIMONY OF RICHARD M. SIMS RESUMED The testimony of Richard M. Sims was taken at 10 a.m., on April 8, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. David W. Belin, assistant counsel of the President's Commission. Mr. BELIN. Will you stand and raise your right hand. Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Mr. SIMS. I do. Mr. BELIN. You are Detective Richard M. Sims? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BELIN. Of the Dallas Police Department? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BELIN. Detective Sims, the day before yesterday you gave testimony in front of or before Joseph A. Ball? Mr. SIMS. Yes. Mr. BELIN. At that time the matter came up concerning cartridge case hulls that were found on the southeast corner of the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building on November 22, 1963. Do you remember that he asked about those? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir. Mr. BELIN. Just for continuity of the record, would you tell us just how you came to see those hulls? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir; Captain Fritz, Boyd, and I, my partner, were on the seventh floor, and someone called us to the sixth floor and said the hulls had been found. So we took the freight elevator, I believe, or the stairs, and went to the sixth floor. Went to the southeast corner and three hulls were laying there by the window on the floor. Mr. BELIN. Did you pick up the hulls at that time? Mr. SIMS. No, sir. Mr. BELIN. What did you do? Mr. SIMS. Waited for the arrival of Lieutenant Day with the crime lab to take pictures of the scene. Mr. BELIN. Do you know who came with Lieutenant Day, if you can remember? Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir. I believe it was Studebaker. I am not positive about that. Mr. BELIN. Did you watch that area up until the time the pictures were taken? Mr. SIMS. No, sir; I didn't stay there all the time. Mr. BELIN. After the pictures were taken, what did you do?