Mr. BALL. We will get to that in a minute--I want to see what you usually do if somebody comes in without a ticket. Mr. BURROUGHS. I stop them and have them go out to the box office and get an admission ticket. Mr. BALL. On this day of November 22, 1963, what time did you go to work? Mr. BURROUGHS. I went to work at 12. Mr. BALL. You went to work that day at 12? Mr. BURROUGHS. That day at 12 o'clock--yes. Mr. BALL. And you later saw a struggle in the theatre between a man and some officers, didn't you? Mr. BURROUGHS. Yes. Mr. BALL. Did you see that man come in the theatre? Mr. BURROUGHS. No, sir; I didn't. Mr. BALL. Do you have any idea what you were doing when he came in? Mr. BURROUGHS. Well, I was--I had a lot of stock candy to count and put in the candy case for the coming night, and if he had came around in front of the concession out there, I would have seen him, even though I was bent down, I would have seen him, but otherwise--I think he sneaked up the stairs real fast. Mr. BALL. Up to the balcony? Mr. BURROUGHS. Yes, sir--first, I think he was up there. Mr. BALL. At least there was a stairway there? Mr. BURROUGHS. Yes, there was two. Mr. BALL. Is there a stairway near the entry? Mr. BURROUGHS. Of the door--yes. Yes, it goes straight--you come through the door and go straight--you go upstairs to the balcony. Mr. BALL. Did anybody come in there that day? Up to the time of the struggle between the man and the police--who didn't have a ticket? Mr. BURROUGHS. No, sir. Mr. BALL. Later on the police came in your place? Mr. BURROUGHS. Yes. Mr. BALL. They asked you if you had seen a man come in there without a ticket? Mr. BURROUGHS. Yes. Mr. BALL. What did you tell him? Mr. BURROUGHS. I said, "I haven't seen him myself. He might have, but I didn't see him when he came in. He must have sneaked in and run on upstairs before I saw him." Mr. BALL. Later on, did somebody point out a man in the theatre to you? Mr. BURROUGHS. No--I got information that a man--the police were cruising up and down Jefferson hunting for Oswald, and he ran to a shoestore and then came out and came on up to the Texas, and the man came in and told me that a man fitting that description came in the show and he wanted me to help him find him, and we went and checked the exit doors, he was up in the balcony, I imagine, and then we went back out and the police caught him downstairs. Mr. BALL. You went to check the exit doors? Mr. BURROUGHS. Yes. Mr. BALL. With the shoe salesman? Mr. BURROUGHS. Yes. Mr. BALL. And were the police out at the exit doors? Mr. BURROUGHS. They came on--somehow they came in--one came in through the back and the rest of them came in through the front. Mr. BALL. Did you see them come in through the back when you were back there? Mr. BURROUGHS. I saw one of them. Mr. BALL. The exit doors you are talking about were in the back or in the front?