Mr. TURNER. Right. Mr. BELIN. Where were you born? Mr. TURNER. Murphy, Tex. Mr. BELIN. Spent all your life in Texas? Mr. TURNER. Except for a couple of years in the service. Mr. BELIN. Was that after you got out of high school? Mr. TURNER. Yes. Mr. BELIN. How far did you go in high school? Mr. TURNER. Finished. Mr. BELIN. You finished high school? Mr. TURNER. Yes. Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do? Mr. TURNER. Went in the service. Mr. BELIN. Was that high school in Murphy? Mr. TURNER. No; it was Plano, Tex. Mr. BELIN. Then you went in the service? Mr. TURNER. Right. Mr. BELIN. In the Army or Navy? Mr. TURNER. Coast Guard. Mr. BELIN. Coast Guard? Mr. TURNER. Yes, sir. Mr. BELIN. What did you do there? Mr. TURNER. I was a storekeeper. Mr. BELIN. Did you have a discharge from the Coast Guard, too? Mr. TURNER. Yes. Mr. BELIN. Did you get an honorable discharge? Mr. TURNER. Right. Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do? Mr. TURNER. When I first came out, I went to work as a carpenter's helper up around Plano there. I worked at that a short while. And then I worked for the Plano Lumber Yard in Richardson, Tex., and I worked there until I came to work for the police department. Mr. BELIN. Were you on duty on November 22, 1963? Mr. TURNER. I was. Mr. BELIN. Did you have anything to do with the motorcade? Mr. TURNER. I did; yes, sir. Mr. BELIN. What was your position? Mr. TURNER. I was riding in the pilot car of the motorcade, possibly 3 minutes in front of the motorcade. Mr. BELIN. Who else was with your car? Mr. TURNER. Chief Lumpkin from our department. Mr. BELIN. Is he an assistant chief of police? Mr. TURNER. Deputy chief of police. Mr. BELIN. Anyone else? Mr. TURNER. My partner, Detective B. L. Senkel, and an Army major whose name I do not remember. Mr. BELIN. You went to Love Field to meet the President? Mr. TURNER. In the car also was a Secret Service man, whose name I do not remember. Yes, sir; I did go to Love Field to meet the President. Mr. BELIN. You saw the plane arrive? Mr. TURNER. Yes, sir. Mr. BELIN. You got prepared to leave a little bit ahead of time of the motorcade? Mr. TURNER. We did. We drove to a gate on the outward edge of Love Field and waited until we got some radio contact from the chief. They were about ready to leave, and we had a running start. Mr. BELIN. How many channels did you have on your radio? Mr. TURNER. Two. Mr. BELIN. Which channel were you on? Mr. TURNER. Channel 2. Mr. BELIN. Was the entire motorcade on channel 2? Mr. TURNER. The entire motorcade was on channel 2, and I believe there was a dispatcher at the central station on channel 2, that relayed some of the changes, and some of the messages were car to car, back and forth. Mr. BELIN. Other police business would be on channel 1, at the time, or also on channel 2? Mr. TURNER. Other police business was on channel 1. Mr. BELIN. All right, you went through the city ahead of the actual motorcade, is that correct?