Mr. TURNER. Yes, sir. Mr. BELIN. Did you keep track of where the motorcade was? Mr. TURNER. Yes, sir; by radio. Mr. BELIN. By radio did you keep track of how fast the motorcade was going? Mr. TURNER. Yes, sir; by radio. Mr. BELIN. Do you remember whether or not there was any radio conversation as to how fast the motorcade was going at the time it got to Main and Houston? Mr. TURNER. I don't recall. Mr. BELIN. Who did you keep your primary radio contact with? Mr. TURNER. Chief Curry. Mr. BELIN. Now where were you when you first heard any signs of anything out of the ordinary? Mr. TURNER. We were on Stemmons Freeway. I don't recall approximately, at the Oak Lawn exit, or somewhere right in that vicinity. Mr. BELIN. What did you hear on the police radio? Mr. TURNER. Well, I heard some conversation, either sounded like Curry's voice or Sheriff Decker's voice, who was riding in the car with him. I believe it said, sounded like Sheriff Decker said notify all men to get over there and cover off the area around this building there until some investigators could get there. Mr. BELIN. Did you return to the Texas School Book Depository Building? Mr. TURNER. Well, yes; but I don't believe he mentioned that building. I believe he just mentioned the overpass over the Elm Street. He said cover off that area around the overpass, I believe. Mr. BELIN. Did you see the President's car come by your car? Mr. TURNER. Out on the expressway, I did; yes. Mr. BELIN. Where was the President's car headed? Mr. TURNER. Parkland Hospital. Mr. BELIN. What did you do then? Mr. TURNER. We fell in behind it in our car. Mr. BELIN. You went over to Parkland Hospital? Mr. TURNER. Yes, sir. Mr. BELIN. What did you do when you got there? Mr. TURNER. We went up by the exit there and helped sort of control the crowd, and I never did go in. They unloaded the President's car. Mr. BELIN. Did you watch them unload the President's car? Mr. TURNER. Off and on, I mean, I was more or less mingling in the crowd, trying to restrain the crowd where they could have room to work. Mr. BELIN. Did you see how they unloaded Governor Connally? Mr. TURNER. No, sir; I didn't. Mr. BELIN. Did you see how they unloaded the President? Mr. TURNER. No, sir. Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do? Mr. TURNER. We got back in Chief Lumpkin's car along with him, and we come back to the Texas School Book Depository Building. Mr. BELIN. When did you get back there, approximately? Mr. TURNER. In relation to time, I don't know. But it was just about a short while. I would say, I don't know, 10 or 15 minutes after it happened. We just started out there in a matter of minutes, and we drove code 3, with the sirens on, and we came back down here. Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do?