Mr. TURNER. Yes; I did. I don't remember that particular time, but I have talked with both of them. Mr. BELIN. Do you remember if it was on that day or a subsequent day? Mr. TURNER. I don't remember whether it was that day or the next day, I sure don't. Mr. BELIN. Who did you talk to? Did you talk to Greener? Mr. TURNER. I talked to Mr. Greener first. Mr. BELIN. Did you later talk to Ryder or not? Mr. TURNER. Yes, sir; I have talked to Ryder. Mr. BELIN. What did Greener say? Mr. TURNER. Well, they said that they had all seen pictures of Oswald in the paper, and neither of them could recall doing anything--any work for the man in the shop. Mr. BELIN. What else did he say, if anything? Mr. TURNER. He stated he would check his files and records for names, and would call back if he found anything and he was giving us a reason there, from looking at the photos in the picture, why they hadn't worked on it. Mr. BELIN. What reason did he give you? Mr. TURNER. Well, in the photos it showed that the screws that hold the clamp that holds the scope on the rifle looked like they were on top of the gun, and he thinks, he says that neither of them have ever seen a gun where the scope was mounted with the screws on top. Mr. BELIN. Were they ever talked to again about the thing? Mr. TURNER. Yes. Mr. BELIN. About when was that? Mr. TURNER. About November 28. Mr. BELIN. Who did you talk to? Mr. TURNER. Mr. Greener. Mr. BELIN. What did he say? Mr. TURNER. He stated that they found a work ticket in the rear of the shop. Said this ticket had no date on it, but the best they could figure out, his--this work probably came in around November the 4th or November the 8th of 1963. Mr. BELIN. Well, what else did he say about the work ticket that would call attention to it? Mr. TURNER. He said the ticket had the name Oswald on it, written on it, and the word "drill and tap, $4.50, and bore sighting, $1.50." Mr. BELIN. Did he say whether or not he could remember anything about this, about the man they did the work for? Mr. TURNER. He stated that he could not; no, sir. Mr. BELIN. Did you ever talk to Ryder about it, or not? Mr. TURNER. Yes, sir; I did. Mr. BELIN. What did Ryder say? Mr. TURNER. He couldn't remember either, anything about the man. Mr. BELIN. Did you ever show them the gun itself? Mr. TURNER. I didn't; no, sir. Mr. BELIN. Do you know whether or not the gun was ever shown to these men? Mr. TURNER. No, sir; I don't. Mr. BELIN. Did he say who wrote the ticket? Mr. TURNER. They said that it was Ryder's writing, I believe. Mr. BELIN. Let me ask you this. Did you ever pick up the work ticket on--or try to pick up the work ticket? Mr. TURNER. Yes, sir; I tried to. Went by Mr. Greener's house. He said that he had orders from a Mr. Horton of the FBI to hold this ticket and not let it get away from him. Mr. BELIN. When did you contact Greener about this? Mr. TURNER. Sir?